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这几天 tensorcash:native 回调确实挺狠。上 SafeTrade 后涨了一大轮,现在有回撤也不奇怪。至少目前,我看好它的理由没变。
我的想法很简单:对我这样的普通人来说,有机会和前高盛、摩根士丹利的MD级高管,在如此早期共同创业参与,可能是一辈子难遇的机会。
以后我还是会不定期分享早期/冷门的 PoW 项目,这点不变。同时,我也会拿出一部分精力,长期参与 TSC 的建设和推广,毕竟这是我自己为这个周期准备的最大 BAG。干对退休,赌错重来,就是这么简单。
如果先把技术放一边,只聊人。
与聪明、牛逼、认真做事的人同行,是我理解的成功捷径之一。
TSC 的重要生态支持者之一 AskTilly,由前高盛董事总经理 @enrico_otta 与前摩根士丹利执行董事 @samjavadi 联合创立。
这也是我愿意深入研究 TSC 的原因:一个早期项目的潜力,往往也藏在选择参与、持续建设的人身上。
早期研究,识人也是识机会。 tensorcash:native
tensorcash:native aims to make AI inference verifiable so it can power a decentralized market...
@Tensorcash lets participants prove that an AI model processed a prompt and generated its answer, enabling trustless payments for AI compute while using inference as proof of work to secure a blockchain
“What we're trying to do with TensorCash is get the same unit of electricity to do both at the same time.”
Today on MCG
$TSC | @Tensorcash w/ @samjavadi ,@enrico_otta
Tensor Cash is the verification and settlement layer for global AI inference
Highlights include:
00:58 – Introduction to Enrico and Samad
03:53 – AI compute is becoming a commodity
06:23 – Model substitution and quantization problem
07:36 – A commodity needs verification
08:53 – What Tensor Cash is
09:50 – L1 where proof of work is inference
11:03 – Bitcoin turned electricity into money
15:48 – Verification by replication
17:27 – Cheating caught: FP8 passed off as FP16
19:57 – Aims to be an open protocol
22:14 – InferenceFi: order book vs OpenRouter
23:57 – Equity in InferenceFi, contributors to Tensor Cash
26:47 – Live: frontier model mined, billed in USD
28:35 – Next: marketplace and flywheel
30:16 – Receipt for every inference
30:48 – How to mine
33:24 – Closing pitch vs overpriced IPOs
34:20 – Host takeaways
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Live soon with @samjavadi.
Questions on @Tensorcash are more than welcome.
xitter.cf/i/broadcasts/1aKbdEjkj…
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33,000 blocks of tensorcash:native in 14 seconds 🫧
Watch miners, pools and the SafeTrade listing shape the network, wallet by wallet.
57% of all mined TSC has never been sold.
👉 map.tensorcash.boblabs.eu
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Great to see the community contributing real-world benchmarks on TensorCash.
Mining adds almost nothing to the cost of serving a request. So one GPU, one request, two revenue streams: the block reward, and verified inference a customer will pay for.
An independent benchmark by @boblabs_eu showed that mining on TensorCash adds at most 0.3% GPU time to inference.
Qwen3.8-27B ran on three GPUs over a full agentic session, once without mining and once with every request mined.
GPU time changed by −1.1% to +0.3%.
At close to zero overhead cost, a miner can serve inference together with a proof of the model that wrote it, and compete for the block reward at the same time.
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gpus are the scarcest thing in ai right now. so a side job can't cost much.
an outside team, @boblabs_eu, ran a full ai agent session on @Tensorcash with every request mined. it took at most 0.3% more gpu time.
so a gpu can keep serving ai and mine blocks on the side. each answer comes with proof of which model wrote it.
i expect that to make mining an easy yes for anyone already running ai models
$TSC
An independent benchmark by @boblabs_eu showed that mining on TensorCash adds at most 0.3% GPU time to inference.
Qwen3.8-27B ran on three GPUs over a full agentic session, once without mining and once with every request mined.
GPU time changed by −1.1% to +0.3%.
At close to zero overhead cost, a miner can serve inference together with a proof of the model that wrote it, and compete for the block reward at the same time.
抱怨的人似乎老是在抱怨。
站在原地,不断向路过的人输出负能量。今天抱怨项目不公平,明天抱怨庄家不拉盘,后天觉得这个社会没救了。
在人生的某个阶段,我似乎也是这样的人,每个人可能都经历这样一段时光,直到自己发现似乎这些负能量毫无意义。
人生不如意事十之八九,谁又能一直顺风顺水呢?
要做的,是多看到人和事的闪光点,每一次都充满希望地出发,认真努力,坚持向前。
失败了做错了甚至被骗了也只是简单说一句:“好吧。”然后继续赶路。
相信自己走过的每一步路都不会白费,相信前方还有更好的风景,相信未来一定会有更美好的事情发生。
永远保持乐观,永远对这个世界充满期待。
上一家公司在疫情期间遭遇了一些经营波动,当时内部弥漫着负能量和各种谣言。作为公司最早的前20名OG之一,我在这种负能量满满的氛围下也选择了离开。
而就在今年,公司成功完成了IPO,许多昔日的同僚也因此实现了财富自由。这对我来说是一次巨大的机会损失,也是一堂昂贵的人生课。
这些年来,我接触过一些真正拿到大结果、最终全身而退的人,发现他们身上往往有着鲜明的共同点:强大的心力和长期乐观的心态。
这又突然想起原来认识一个 $KAS 大佬以前经常说的一句话了:要远离负能量,多接近正能量。
这里我解释下 @boblabs_eu 在千问27B模型技术复现意的义:
@Tensorcash 的 PoW 协议能够以几乎可以忽略的额外计算开销,兼容现有的 AI 模型推理。
真正做到同一份计算,几乎相同的成本,两种产出:AI 推理收入 + PoW 区块奖励。
我认为,这种经济模型对未来吸引中大型数据中心采用 tensorcash:native 至关重要。毕竟这个世界终究是商业社会,任何商业行为都绕不开成本与收益。
An independent benchmark by @boblabs_eu showed that mining on TensorCash adds at most 0.3% GPU time to inference.
Qwen3.8-27B ran on three GPUs over a full agentic session, once without mining and once with every request mined.
GPU time changed by −1.1% to +0.3%.
At close to zero overhead cost, a miner can serve inference together with a proof of the model that wrote it, and compete for the block reward at the same time.
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⚡ Neptune Core v0.19.3 is out!
Another step toward letting nodes join the network without downloading every block:
• Nodes can now share archival mutator set data, verified against the chain before it's accepted
• Options to refuse incoming connections or connect only to listed peers
• Earlier rejection of bad-standing peers and tighter block-serving limits
• Mempool fix and updated docs, including an explainer on succinctness
🔗 Full notes:
github.com/Neptune-Crypto/ne…
⚡ Neptune Core v0.19.2 is out!
Two days after v0.19.1, the P2P work continues, with a focus on protecting nodes from overload:
• Invalid blocks dropped early, before costly proof verification
• Rate limits on blocks served to peers
• More reliable connections for nodes behind routers and firewalls
• Mempool and mining fixes
🔗 Full notes:
github.com/Neptune-Crypto/ne…
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Tomorrow at 12:30 ET, early contributors @samjavadi and @enrico_otta join @MCGlive to talk about TensorCash and answer questions about the protocol.
This week on MCG powered by @fomo, @MetaDAOProject, times in ET
Monday 10/26
12:30 - $OVER @overdotcomputer w/@lililashka (@backabledotbiz raise)
1:00 - $CHOP @choplogsapp
Tuesday 10/27
12:30 - tensorcash:native @tensorcash w/@samjavadi @enrico_otta
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Wednesday 10/28
12:30 - $UFG @ufgdefi w/@defidave
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Thursday 10/29
12:30 - robinhood:0x72be1277e198d0c476869253cb4e62807e14533c @RaetoCC
1:00 - robinhood:0x7163ae1b5aea2f09ebc609c52b4dcac0a7a4bc2d @gagedotcash w/@0xbisbis
Friday 10/30
12:30 - $ANYONE @AnyoneFDN w/@0xneuratic
1:00 - robinhood:0xfce34d21a92069100e3226638140706cf03a266e @GldstnOnChain w/@SonofAdam777_
Watch on YT 👉 youtube.com/@MCG_Live
MCG Research terminal: mcgsignal.com
Learn to LP with @met_lparmy on @MeteoraAG
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tensorcash:native @Tensorcash @MCGlive 访谈节目
北京时间:10月28日(周三)凌晨 00:30
美东时间:10月27日(周二)中午 12:30 PM EDT
嘉宾-Tensorcash生态支持者
Enrico Ottavian(@enrico_otta)
Sam Javadi(@samjavadi)
直播链接:
youtube.com/@MCG_Live?utm_so…
This week on MCG powered by @fomo, @MetaDAOProject, times in ET
Monday 10/26
12:30 - $OVER @overdotcomputer w/@lililashka (@backabledotbiz raise)
1:00 - $CHOP @choplogsapp
Tuesday 10/27
12:30 - tensorcash:native @tensorcash w/@samjavadi @enrico_otta
1:00 - $ARX @arcium w/@yrschrade
Wednesday 10/28
12:30 - $UFG @ufgdefi w/@defidave
1:00 - $AI @longdotxyz w/@natan_benish
Thursday 10/29
12:30 - robinhood:0x72be1277e198d0c476869253cb4e62807e14533c @RaetoCC
1:00 - robinhood:0x7163ae1b5aea2f09ebc609c52b4dcac0a7a4bc2d @gagedotcash w/@0xbisbis
Friday 10/30
12:30 - $ANYONE @AnyoneFDN w/@0xneuratic
1:00 - robinhood:0xfce34d21a92069100e3226638140706cf03a266e @GldstnOnChain w/@SonofAdam777_
Watch on YT 👉 youtube.com/@MCG_Live
MCG Research terminal: mcgsignal.com
Learn to LP with @met_lparmy on @MeteoraAG
Convert to solana:USDvUSpnhCr9yBgj3UyVrD239HRUv4RsHwH2FxsWuMk w/@solomon_labs, link in bio
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