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i talk about itachi and write fanfic https://xitter.gq/t.co/N35iKIZH8m

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u ever like a character so much u get excited at the thought of them doing mundane things
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while we're at it, no, retcons are not required to be overt to be considered "retcons." retcons may refer to the contradiction, alteration, AS WELL as the recontextualization of previous information in any way the author had not initially intended.
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you know, itachi doesn't have to be 100% retcon or 100% not-a-retcon. i think kishi's plans for itachi's real role in the story go way back, but not THAT far back. that scene of itachi crying after the massacre, for example, was 100% a retcon.
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suki@_suiiikiNov 4
uchiha brothers 💧💧💧inherited get it haha cus after itachis no? oh ok.
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yes bc, to summarize, authors are asking for basic respect. readers then go and deflect to secondary issues such as supposed implied consent, piracy-ethics, archival practices, author altruism, and DMCAs, never once engaging with the original concern or its implications...
isabelle (@luvwungs46593) profile pictureisabelle@luvwungs46593Nov 1
this pretty much sums up the difference in conversation concerning ao3
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like, the "download button" argument is pathetically easy to counter and challenge, but when you do, the person who made it is just going to move the goalpost to either archival practices or piracy.
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to specify, no, the majority of writers don't mind their fic being downloaded. and a *download* button is not a "upload to google drive and share the link to twitter" button. apples and oranges.
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none of which engage with the reason why the original argument had been refuted to begin with, which is supposed implied consent. nobody consented. you might think that your values outweigh consent ethics, but you don't get to act like you didn't callously disregard them.
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twitter users be like: i have a strong belief and i will make it everybody else's problem. wait, why are you angry?
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regardless of what your values are, you cannot exactly act surprised when writers feel hurt after you disregard theirs. don't talk about fanfic authors honoring some altruistic ideal when you can't even honor the community aspect of fandom.
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perhaps we do agree, but actions often don't reflect beliefs. which isn't even really the point, to be clear — the point is that it is damaging people's sense of community.
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👻 (@deifyrvby) profile picture👻@deifyrvbyNov 1
we can *at least* agree on that neither the reader nor writer should become the currency, but i genuinely do not believe that to be what is happening here.
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beyond this, i believe to have made my point abundantly clear. i don't think there's anything left to be said.
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first time i've written this much on twitter, i think. my main takeaway is that readers and writers have very similar concerns. we don't want our participation in fandom to be reduced to resources in the form of currency and commodities.
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👻 (@deifyrvby) profile picture👻@deifyrvbyNov 1
Replying to @100tabsopen @nawiosne
excuse the long text
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Arguably the biggest and most saddening part of this fanfic repost discourse is that the issue is less about the reposting and more about the fact that people will do everything in their power to remove authors from the equation while still wanting their work.
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i really need to stop interacting with bullcrap on this site, don't i?
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i do not think that this is what fanfic authors are salty about. genuinely. the heart of the argument lies within fandom culture and community. not legal texts.
simón 🐇 (@jeytiripilled) profile picturesimón 🐇@jeytiripilledOct 30
this is fanfiction bro YOU are the one doing intellectual property infringement
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in general I always think the argument about fanfic writers being treated badly is some overhyped fringe audience speaking too loudly however. seeing posts like this, seeing the mass of people agreeing. uhh. my eyes are being opened. what the actual fuck is going on.
marcy so in love 📘 (@nawiosne) profile picturemarcy so in love 📘@nawiosneOct 31
the thing i'm like fundamentally pro piracy and i don't understand why would i make an exception for fanfiction if im being honest lol
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second take of the day: this entire Ao3/fanfic discourse is literally just people confusing personal boundaries with gatekeeping. pro-piracy advocacy is about fighting the gatekeeping of culture and knowledge. dismissing a writer's (worker's) wishes is pro-consumerist.
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fanfic was never gatekept to begin with. gatekeeping is about deciding WHO gets access to a resource. this discourse is not about that. creatives are telling you what you can and cannot do with the thing they created that represents a piece of themselves.
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so again, if you make a conscious decision to disregard an author's wishes, you are reducing them to a content machine. you are dehumanizing them. you are commodifying something they never intended to commodify.
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