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I spend most of my time trying to figure out what's wrong with modernity.

Joined October 2021
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❀ (@deallium) profile picture❀@dealliumOct 27
i’m so easily impressed by the way the sun shines through the trees
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I have issues with the Ashari DCT view, but Asharis did not invent the position. Al-Bayhaqī records this statement from Iyās ibn Muʿāwiyah (d. ~122 AH), plus commentary. Earlier (pre-Ashari) sources also authentically record it. See second screenshot from Al-Firyābī (d. 301AH).
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Replying to @ZouhairsMurid @seek2170 @hashimiyy_
Whereas we only go to heaven by Allah's mercy so not because of the produced good. So what he says is in fact true - according to the calculus moral realists opperate under - God is absurdly unjust and deprived of wisdom.
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Azhaar@Azhaar3818Apr 17
It’s very striking to me how many moral objections against God from Atheists have already been utilised by Ash’aris against ethical realists. Worth keeping in mind that establishing the existence of God is independent of any moral concerns. Here’s al-Ghazali:
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@___TheGOOdWitchApr 17
My entire argument with somebody asks me why I’m atheist is that I cannot believe in something that will punish me infinitely for sins in finite life
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“He who is troubled by an eternal residence in paradise because it was not preceded by toiling and fulfilling obligations is too insignificant to be addressed or debated” — al-Ghazali
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“Had the purpose of creating and bringing [the world] into being been these paltry pleasures—when the Creator knew that abundant pains would occur—[He] would have knowingly created a preponderant evil for the sake of a comparatively meagre good” —al-Razi
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On the topic of taklif al-Ghazali writes: “I wish I knew how a reasonable person finds it acceptable to say that there is benefit for mankind in being obligated. The very meaning of benefit negates hardship; and to obligate is precisely to require hardship, which is pain.”
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Azhaar (@Azhaar3818) profile pictureAzhaar@Azhaar3818Oct 27
I’ll go one step further: If God is a moral agent, he is the worst of moral agents.
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Though he may not have so explicitly stated what I did, it is clear his objective is to prove how God should be considered unjust by his interlocutors’ standards
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al-Razi raises further problems for the issue of taklif. How can it be considered good to obligate another to perform certain acts and refrain from others, especially when the one obligating neither benefits from it nor is harmed by it?
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I’ll go one step further: If God is a moral agent, he is the worst of moral agents.
ًً (@kelevitch) profile pictureًً@kelevitchOct 27
Everytime i see this miskeen on my TL he’s spitting borderline kufr statements
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It’s far closer to kufr to place bounds, laws, and commands upon our Lord by suggesting what he can and cannot do.
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“He has given some animals power over others without rewarding the killer or the killed among the two, and He is the wisest. This is contrary to the rule among us, and so their saying that God the Exalted only acts for the benefit of his worshipers is false.” — Ibn Hazm
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Delman@dmontetheno1Mar 17
🧵 Early Ashʿari theology presents one of the most uncompromising views in moral philosophy. Moral value does not sit inside actions themselves. An action becomes wrong because God prohibits it, and becomes obligatory because God commands it. (1/24)
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shi@maerdtoofOct 27
DCT can be a hard pill to swallow, but I have yet to see a convincing argument against it that isn’t just a convoluted appeal to emotion. What alternative model of morality remains rationally consistent without compromising God’s will and absolute independence in some way?
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Listen, I just don’t think it’s just to inflict the most horrific suffering, including debilitating illnesses and sexual abuse, on innocent children in order to test their parents.
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The promise of heavenly reward does not resolve the issue, since God could have freely given this reward without any prior suffering. Indeed, to withhold that which benefits someone but does nothing to harm you is considered a miserly act amongst us.
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“Hidden wisdom” isn’t a plausible avenue either, for what difference does it makes if the suffering has reasons behind it or not? It would not change the fact of suffering, and regardless of whatever reason that you suffer, could God not achieve this without causing suffering?
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My mum could take a singular hit from my 15000 puff vape pod and I’d make her transfer me $1
A. (@anafasowais) profile pictureA.@anafasowaisOct 26
Life of kuffar, man.
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