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This is an interesting conversation. According to Basham, Lilly is not a Christian organization because they provide money to non-Christian causes. Thus to recived money from them is suspect. Lilly Endowment funds a wide variety of projects. I would be surprised if all of those projects are Christian. I am not going to argue whether Lilly is Christian or not and in fact for the sake of argument I will stipulate that at the very least it is not evangelical and will support some stuff I do not like.
About 25 years ago, I was part of a reserach team that recieved a nice Lilly grant to study multiracial church. From that research I wrote a Christian book - One Body, One Spirit - that helped a lot of churches become racially diverse. Other work has used Lilly money to do great things for evangelicals specifically and the Body in general. Should we have tuned down that money to remain "pure."?
I do not think that turning down resources to remain pure is scriptural. As long as the organization does not force me to work towards non-Christian ends, it did not make me less of a Christian to use the money from Lilly to do good things. When the Israelies left Egypt to go to the promised land, the Egyptians (Exodus 12:36). God allowed them to plunder the Egyptians. There were a lot of ways the Israelies sinned during that period of time. That was not one of them.
So even if Lilly is not a Christian organization, so what? What did organizations do with the money is what I care about. If they repurpose the money to further the Kingdom them so much the better. Painting people as sold out because they recieved money from an organization we do not trust is short sighted and inaccurate. Show me what they do with the money and then we can talk.
Replying to @megbasham
@megbasham classifies any foundation or org that gives a grant to a mainline church or seminary a “secular” org. This is how she can declare that orgs like CT get “the majority of their funding” from “secular” sources.
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I’ll add one more thing: Russia actively jails or kills evangelical pastors in the territories they control. They are in cahoots with the Russian Orthodox Church. Ukraine, before the war, was the hub for evangelical missions and church planting in Eastern Europe. It’s the most evangelical country in that part of the world. They also kidnap and traffic young children. This is something Melania Trump has thankfully highlighted.
If you're a Christian leader who's had an affair, it's ok to go sell insurance. Or build houses. Or drive Uber. You should repent and be fully restored to community within the life of the church. But you don't have to get back on stage. You don't need to teach. If can't serve without being in the spotlight, maybe you weren't really serving in the first place.
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Christians do not owe allegiance to any political party. There is no such thing as "the Christian party."
Our allegiance belongs to Christ. His priorities, teaching, and way of being in the world should shape the political decisions we make, the convictions we hold, and the causes we advocate for (which won't all map neatly onto either the Right or the Left).
"No version of Christianity that is faithful and orthodox and true can just fit neatly into either a Democrat or Republican box. Anyone who is trying to do that is giving up the best gift that we have, which is this word from outside that challenges the human assumptions and political boxes we’ve made."
@kaitlynschiess on 🎙️The SkyePod: Responding to Ezra Klein’s Interview with James Talarico
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Testing the Limits of ‘Soul Liberty’: Between Autonomy and Liberalism in... youtu.be/2xF2hkwC4wA?is=COY0… via @YouTube
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This is what unbridled, raw spiritual manipulation looks like.
Holding prominent leaders to account for ongoing violations of New Testament standards and doctrine in no way equates to "attacking each other," "being unkind," etc.
Do many critics online cross from righteous criticisms into carnal mockery, personal attacks, etc? Of course. Welcome to the internet.
Does this mean all biblical standards for righteous leadership are thus, "none of your business" and should be abandoned? Of course not. The Bible commands that the body of Christ hold leaders to biblical standards.
For Benny Hinn of all people to accuse critics of his or Kenneth Copeland of doing it all for money may win the all-time best gas-lighting, hypocrisy award of the past forty years. 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆
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Faith isn’t
-A super power
-Deterministic
-Opposed at all to works
-Done for you
Rather, faith can be forsaken and misplaced, resulting in ethical malpractice, sin, and eschatological destruction
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Pet peeve: Online folks who handwring that "we've lost the Republic" or "It's the end of democracy" every time a court case or policy fight or election is lost. Give me a break. This country endured a civil war. Our grandparents fought the Nazis and Communists and won. Let's have more faith in the country.
Thankfully, this is an online phenomenon among people who cash in on cynicism for clicks. Rank-and-file normal people are busy living their lives and don't think the sky is falling.
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White nationalism in America is especially weird because --historically-- nativism was about White people opposing the immigration of other White people.
Like, do you who this flag was about?
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So let me get this right. One American Presbyterian denomination (PCA) has reaffirmed its prohibition of women serving as deacons. And another American Presbyterian denomination (PCUSA) has opted against affirmation of monogamy.
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"Let us walk properly as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual immorality and sensuality, not in quarreling and jealousy." - Rom. 13:13
"Orgies and drunkenness" are in the same list as "quarreling and jealousy."
Beware respectable sins.
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Um. Why not just show it in the fellowship hall after church?
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The most masculine men in the world are not the guys preening about it online. They are the ordinary dads who took their families to church after working all week to provide. They are the dads who get up early to read their Bibles and point their kids, however imperfectly, toward Christ.
New Testament scholar N.T. Wright weighs in on what the Bible says about women in ministry — and it’s worth the watch.
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If getting a meeting with your “pastor” is a “once in a lifetime” opportunity, you don’t have a pastor.
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Christian brothers and sisters, stop tolerating wicked speech and behavior from your favorite influencer.
"But we NEED him to help us WIN"
This is worldly thinking.
"Do not be misled. Bad company corrupts good character." - 1 Cor. 15:33
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Those in the SBC who think I no longer should have anything to say about the SBC profoundly underestimate the power of love. I’d served southern Baptist women for 40 years by the time I left. And when I left, I left directly on their behalf because it became disturbingly clear to me that the SBC as an entity was more interested in protecting shepherds than the sheep entrusted to their care. When protecting the pulpit from women becomes a far greater priority than protecting women (& children) from an abusive pulpit, something is wrong. Which has been the greater problem: women trying to become your senior pastors or pastors misusing or abusing women?
My biggest concern is that what happened with the CRT witch-hunt will happen now in regard to women. The overreach resulted in numerous pastors, teachers and professors dropping the immensely important biblical teachings against racism rather than risk being accused of CRT. I heard from pastors at that time who preached against racism and already had emails Monday morning from people in their congregation accusing them of CRT. Because the difference wasn’t clarified, they lumped all of it into the one category. The aim became: shut every mouth to shut some mouths.
I pled for SBC seminary presidents and leaders to please clarify to pastors and teachers and, thereby, to congregations & students what qualified as CRT and what indeed was the proper and deeply rooted and needed biblical approach to anti-gospel racism.
Crickets.
I see the same potential here. I have never once fought for SBC women to take over church pulpits. I have esteemed and supported the role of male senior pastors. My own pastors would tell you that. If you think I was in the SBC trying to lead a revolution against men, you are clearly not familiar with my materials. What I believed then and believe now is that God has called both men and women to serve their churches and communities and proclaim the gospel. He has poured out his Holy Spirit on men AND on women, calling them to broadcast the good news.
You have beaten the drum loudly about what women in SBC churches cannot do. So, what CAN they do? Clarity here is essential. What is a woman to do who has been gifted BY GOD to teach the Bible, especially if her church has moved to the community group model and there is no Sunday school to teach?
Here is what I see on the horizon. If you leave these matters involving women so vague that it becomes about pastoral roles/actions rather than the title of pastor, it will shift to the subjective rather than objective. I wish I was naïve enough to think that wasn’t the point to some of these leaders but, sadly, I’m not.
What if that senior pastor doesn’t allow a woman on the prayer team to pray over people at the end of the service because he deems she is acting pastorally? What if the pastor sees that a woman’s Sunday school class of WOMEN is getting, in his estimation, a little too big? Can he just decide she acting pastorally and remove her from the role? Can she counsel people with her God-given wisdom and knowledge or would she be acting pastorally? The examples could go on and on. And, of course, I realize many would not use their positions to disesteem women but surely you and I both know countless others would. God only knows how many unqualified, unloving, mean-spirited men are in pastoral positions but the obsession remains the women.
I have no desire to see SBC women leave the denomination. I loved and flourished in that denomination. I want them to be able to flourish in their spiritual gifts. I want them to be esteemed in their serving inside and outside their homes. I want them to be able to serve Jesus and proclaim his glorious gospel.
I know I’m going to get hit here. That’s fine. But you should know I will fight for them to the death. Because I love them. And, yes, whether they love me or not.
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I don't think "just support the less bad candidate" is simple for public figures with big platforms.
Individuals can support "less bad" candidates by voting for them while loudly decrying their flaws.
But in a two-party system, if a public figure loudly decries the flaws 1/
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Egalitarians do not compromise God’s word on women pastors. We need better from SBC leaders on this point. This is piety signaling. Nothing more.





















