The host: “lydia, it's the size of that muslim population in michigan that caused me to say, this is the wrong, i hate to put it in these terms, card to play in the final eight days of the election. why not go the socialist route? you're thinking what?” Lydia: “so i disagree with your characterization that republicans are being anti-muslim. they're being anti-el-sayed, who has repeatedly refused to deny or distance himself from muslim brotherhood ties. i want to highlight something that just came out. in 2012, he signed a letter in support of then egyptian muslim brotherhood leader morsi, and urged him to purge the media and the police force as quickly as possible of dissenters. he told kristen welker, no familial ties to the muslim brotherhood. well, we're learning that actually his mother was involved with an organization that did funnel money to hamas.” The host: “i just want you to know, i don't accept your assertion that he's refused to cut all ties. it's all a semantic game. why is he willing to say, i disagree with my sister, my family has no ties to the muslim brotherhood, but on this issue, i just don't think that's a fair accounting.” Scott Jennings: “any time that he's pressed, then he lashes out at bret baier, because bret baier wants a real clear answer on, how did you change your position from a few years ago? because he's never fully answered it. has he fully answered the question? well, anybody else want to know? what do you think about his inability to answer the question, what's a bigger threat, israel or iran? what do you think about his answer to the question when a radical ran their truck into the synagogue, hurt people, hurt people? the reason he's having to answer all of these questions is because he has made so many mistakes in his own positioning, in his own rhetoric in this campaign, and then when journalists, as lydia points out, follow up with him, his sneering, condescending, defensive attitude leads to more questions. that is his problem.” Lydia: “is he sneering and condescending on this issue? listen, the things that he said that scott pointed out were terrible things to say, and he shouldn't have said them, but to say that he has not distanced himself from the muslim brotherhood is just not accurate. he said multiple times, i'm not a member. even when he blew up at bret baier, to your point probably annoyed, he said, i'm not a member of them. so i think that the problem is, if it's scott jennings asking focused questions about actual mistakes, that's one thing, but when you have the president of the united states saying he's gonna open up the borders and let in jihadists, that is a lie, and is a lie based on bigotry. it's a lie based on scaring people about him being a muslim. he's never said anything about opening the borders for jihadists. he said dumb things about foreign policy, but not about that. i just want to say this. this is the worst mistake that the republicans are making, because they're driving up muslim turnout, and to your point, the muslim turnout is very big. they're driving it through the roof, and they also are scaring people away from rogers, because people don't want to be a part of something that's racist.” Scott Jennings: “does it remind you that he won't condemn the ayatollah, because he doesn't want to defend people? i didn't like when you get that. talk about that. what does that have to do with calling him muhammad, muhammad, muhammad, and calling him a jihadist? he has done and said things that deserve — and then when people ask him about it, he gets defensive.” Lydia: “i think all those things are correct, but i think republicans are making a horrific mistake. if they want to stop abdul, all of the jumping the shark and calling him a jihadist, when he is not, saying he's going to open up the border, which he is not going to do as well. mike rogers has not said anything. his opponent has not said any of those things.” The host: “joanna, you want in on this?” Joanna: “my point is that actually, abdul el-sayed has got under donald trump's skin, and donald trump is a man who's flailing. he says he's not on the ballot, but he is on the ballot, and he's going after him because he's trying to create a diversion from his horrible policies, which is why the republicans are in the place that they're in.”