![[0:05:59.5] KB: Okay. I thought, well I'll give a class on test-driven development, because here I am and I can – nobody’s using TBD, so well, of course, they'll want to learn from me. In the signup sheet, I went and checked just before I left. I went and checked the old, old wiki and the evidence is still there. The class just before mine on the list of classes was about advanced techniques in Excel and it was full and there was a waitlist. The class just after mine was on Argentinian tango and it was full and there was a waitlist. I had zero people sign up for my class. I thought, “How am I going to have any impact here, if people don't listen to me?” I deliberately chose to forget everything I knew about software engineering. I just said, “I'm going to try and be a programmer and I'm going to watch what people do. I'm just going to copy what they do. If somebody says this is too diff since that one, it will be too diffs. If somebody says you need tests for this, I'll write tests.](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FQZNGetacAMvUEJ.jpg?name=small&format=webp)
ALT [0:05:59.5] KB: Okay. I thought, well I'll give a class on test-driven development, because here I am and I can – nobody’s using TBD, so well, of course, they'll want to learn from me. In the signup sheet, I went and checked just before I left. I went and checked the old, old wiki and the evidence is still there. The class just before mine on the list of classes was about advanced techniques in Excel and it was full and there was a waitlist. The class just after mine was on Argentinian tango and it was full and there was a waitlist. I had zero people sign up for my class. I thought, “How am I going to have any impact here, if people don't listen to me?” I deliberately chose to forget everything I knew about software engineering. I just said, “I'm going to try and be a programmer and I'm going to watch what people do. I'm just going to copy what they do. If somebody says this is too diff since that one, it will be too diffs. If somebody says you need tests for this, I'll write tests.

ALT Fundo branco com uma onda de cor roxa preenchendo metade da tela, com uma borda rosa. No topo, no lado esquerdo faixa rosa escrito "PAINELISTA", e no direito, logo da Feministech. No meio, foto circular de Jamille, com uma seta apontando para o texto "Kamila Santos. Desenolvedora backend e criadora de conteúdo kamila code". No rodapé, texto em destaque "23 de abril | 12h45", e embaixo, texto "twitch.tv/morgannadev"

ALT Fundo branco. Retângulo roxo escrito novo episódio no lado esquerdo superior. No lado direito, está o logo do podcast. Centralizado está "Episódio 16.4 Esquenta 2022 - Carreira: Desenvolvimento Mobile". Abaixo, temos a foto da Jeniffer, com ondas sonoras atrás. Embaixo da foto está "com Jeniffer Bittencourt" e "Integrante do Scuba Team na Alura e criadora de bugs no android". Centralizado na parte debaixo, estão os logos de diversas plataformas de podcasts.

























