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He is Shia Twelver. His family is like many Khoja Shia Indians who migrated to Africa to proselytize and do business. They are a very successful community in New York, extremely organized and have some of the best Shia programs.
This is the average calibre of both both parties. Merging the biblical Israel with a random European settler country.
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Israel can literally attack America and our politicians would still stand with Israel.
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Benjamin Netanyahu is everything the media wanted you to believe Vladimir Putin is.
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All this to distract from being on the Epstein List.
Impeach the Pedophile for ignoring Congress.
Do your jobs.
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That said, I've only heard this in reference to border regions of the two empires, not as far away as Anatolia. It makes sense though, hardly the first time a migration has happened.
Very interesting. I believe historically one of the big reasons for population movement between the Ottoman and Safavid empires was conscription. Ottoman empire citizenship was a sure-fire way to lose your sons to far off foreign wars. Safavid empire was a safer bet for many.
The Kurds in this region fascinate me. Have you ever noticed that certain tribes of the Lak and Fayli Kurds also exist in Anatolia / are originally from Anatolia? For example:
- Malekshahi: they go back to the Beylik of Chemishgezek (which was also called "Melkişî", the name goes back to the founder of the dynasty "Melikşah").
- Chaghalvand: could be the Çaqalan tribe in Anatolia. In Iran they speak Laki & are Shiites (Jafari) and in Turkey they speak Kurmancî & are partly Alevi, partly Sunni (Hanafi).
- Rishvand: could be the Reshwan tribe in Anatolia. In Iran (Lorestan) they speak Laki and are Shiites (Jafari) and in Turkey they speak Kurmancî and are mostly Sunni (Hanafi) and partly Alevi. There are also Shiite Reshwan Kurds in Khorasan and Qazvin.
- Judeki: in the book "Contributions to the Anthropology of Iran" by Henry Field he mentions on page 177 the Judeki tribe, which lives in Lorestan between the Kashgan and Dez rivers. The Cudkî tribe also exists in Anatolia (in Konya).
Historical sources indicate that the Chemishgezek Kurds also settled in the border region of Iran & Iraq (besides Khorasan). We know from the sources that the leader of the Chemishgezek Hecî Rustem Beg was pro-Safavid and that he received lands in Iraq. Today's Malekshahi in Iraq & Iran are most likely those who followed Hecî Rustem Beg to Iraq and settled there.
I assume that this migration movement is not limited to the Melikshahi but that other (pro-Safavid) tribes also migrated from Anatolia to Lorestan, Ilam, Mandali etc. This needs to be analyzed and researched.
I'm not disputing that, it's an anecdote on Baghdadi Feylis. My family surname is from the Ilam side of the map, we crossed over at some point to Wasit and then again to Baghdad. Like you said, there's several factors on naming Lur/Kurd. At least "Feyli" is consistently present.
It's difficult to universally determine with absolute clarity since there's multiple generations of history, migrations, regimes and reasons to say you're X or Y depending on who/which government is asking. Fascinating reading everyone's family history nonetheless.
Just to add an anecdote. I don't think I have ever really see any Baghdadi based "Feyli Lurs". Historically Baghdad's "Kurdish Quarter" was settled by Kurd Feylis, hence why it is called Kurdish not Luri.