Illimitable Man (IM) retweeted
Most high IQ people aren’t shy or quiet, they’ve just learned that you aren’t worth talking to.
The most surefire way to ascertain a woman’s love for you is to see if she will break a personal rule for you. As the receptive principle, a woman will bend in the presence of a man she admires. If she will not, then she does not truly admire that man. It is easy to say she can admire a man and still hold steadfast to her principles, in fact to believe and assert that would be very comforting for you, and make you feel as if you successfully undermined, outdone and defeated my assertion, but if you say that I know you are a liar and a point scorer rather than a truth teller, because a woman who puts principle above feeling - especially in matters of true love - is practically unheard of. Her love comes first and foremost above all else, and whatever rules or principles she may hold bend around that. If she finds it easy to impose rules and thus never bends, then for all intent and purpose she is not in love. A super religious woman may be repressed enough in her sexuality and strict enough in her conduct to chain herself up and repeatedly override her desire to yield by redirecting her attention towards God, but that is the only exception I’m willing to grant.
Women are natural extremists, for they are both more loyal, and less loyal than man simultaneously. They are less loyal in the sense they are more easily dissatisfied, and more readily prone to betrayal rather then reconciliation once they feel dissatisfied, but more loyal in the sense that if they revere a man, they truly revere that man, and absolutely nothing bad you can say about him can turn her against him. You could slander him or reveal the very worst secrets about him, and she either wouldn’t believe it, or just straight up wouldn’t care. Nothing you say can damage her view of him. He is the exception to her every rule.
It is pain that fails to corrupt you which serves as the basis for purifying you.
This is why it is often amongst those who have been hurt the most you will find the kindest.
Illimitable Man (IM) retweeted
You envy them because they had it easier than you and got to experience comforts and pleasures alien to you.
But they envy you because you are greater than them, and you became greater precisely because of what you lacked and endured.
So who is the real winner?
Illimitable Man (IM) retweeted
The greatest and most enduring joy a woman can know in this life is to share it with a man she genuinely looks up to.
Looks fade and children grow up, but reverence for the beauty and greatness of a soul is forever
Illimitable Man (IM) retweeted
Those who bite the hand that feeds
Should no longer be fed.
If you are ungrateful.
You can feed yourself
And if you starve, then you starve.
It is what you deserve.
Illimitable Man (IM) retweeted
High truth preference people can't be friends with low truth preference people, because the former even with the best of intentions will inevitably offend the latter, whilst the latter will consistently irritate and annoy the former with their dishonest denials and delusions.
You envy them because they had it easier than you and got to experience comforts and pleasures alien to you.
But they envy you because you are greater than them, and you became greater precisely because of what you lacked and endured.
So who is the real winner?
The greatest and most enduring joy a woman can know in this life is to share it with a man she genuinely looks up to.
Looks fade and children grow up, but reverence for the beauty and greatness of a soul is forever
Illimitable Man (IM) retweeted
The common female fantasy is that a man far superior to her will choose her because she kept herself relatively unblemished, and then relieve her of all her burdens. She sees her ideal man as a relatively finished product who is the solution to all her problems that uniquely desires her.
She is not interested in his becoming, but her own, in the woman she can become through him in how she relates to and experiences herself through him, rather than a primary focus on the man he can become through her. To her, a man is a consolidating principle, he brings everything together for her - that's how she sees him - that's what he is to her.
Women who wish to build with a man then are generally superior, for the simple reason they are willing to suffer with him to create something with him, and thereby bind deeper with him because they are invested in him, rather than simply arriving as expectant beneficiaries of all his prior luck and effort - looking to be chosen, and calling that selection a gift, blessing or miracle.
They realise that to become part of a man at the deepest level they must not merely reap, but also sow. That they must architect their own becoming through architecting his, by looking to invest in him rather than extract from him and calling that love.
It is two very different orientations, and thus ways of looking at men. Most women see men as investors, few see them as investments. Architect tier women are thus the exception, rather than the rule for the very simple reason that greatness is the exception, rather than the rule. Which is why although the vast majority will not find what I say here to be all that relatable, it is in fact - true.
You mean you follow the pussy and will do whatever it takes to get yourself a crumb. This to you is the height of existence and what underlies your every motive and reason for being. That is unironically not ascending, but descending. It also selects for incredibly shallow, boring and insufferable women who themselves have little value beyond their youth and fuckability.
Do you think looks alone are enough to secure you a brilliant woman with a beautiful soul and brain you would actually enjoy the company of, wish to converse at length with repeatedly until the end of your days, and ultimately build a beautiful and rewarding life with?
Because I can assure you, they’re not. In fact men who think women only care about money and looks and obsess over maximising both will only ever attract the worst of women because they do not understand the best of women at all. True archetypal feminine beauty, individuated courage and genius will continue to elude you as you insist it doesn’t exist by living in a way that subjects you to the very opposite, and you will slave away for the mid prize that is a hot woman with a bland personality, shit morals, no aura and no purity. You’re literally making yourself pretty for bot women. Women actually worth marrying do not use dating apps.
I have not once seen clav with a woman I’d ever want to hear speak or share the company of. Overall it is a path to nowhere and will die within 5 to 10 years (I lean closer to 5 in his personal life dragged out to 10 publicly to milk the streamer gravy train) when clav himself as the cult leader/face of the movement has his epiphanies and discovers after speedrunning normie sexual success that his life is empty, depressing and relatively unfulfilling ans meaningless and not because “he can’t get girls” but because the girls he gets and the way he gets them aren’t worth shit.
You have also not once considered there are very high caliber women who would find a man too polished and obsessed with his appearance to be vain and abhorrent and less attractive precisely because she views him as feminine. That this in itself is an ick that turns off the best of women “being weirdly autistic about his appearance”
Normalisation of surgery within society is not a good thing either, but also most people cannot afford it so it will never be as mainstream as your internet sub community thinks it is. On that point, surgery is a type of genetic and biological fraud, and the evidence will show in your children’s height and face(who you’ll also have to alter to keep up appearances, see how vain and descending the spiral becomes?)
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Replying to @lordfilmer @SovereignIM
This reminds me of when people in the 2000s would debate whether game was feminine or predatory or whatever. Maybe the early adopters of game or looksmaxing had psychological issues, but as it gets mainstreamed, adoption doesn't mean anything except that a guy follows incentives.
Illimitable Man (IM) retweeted
If a man is socially conservative but learns to cook and cook well, and it is not due to some extreme natural passion for the craft or in relation to his vocation, then it is because he does not expect to marry.
Those who bite the hand that feeds
Should no longer be fed.
If you are ungrateful.
You can feed yourself
And if you starve, then you starve.
It is what you deserve.
It is "men" (and I use that term loosely) employing a materialist female dating strategy.
Looksmaxxing is basically the zoomer take on millennial metrosexuality just on steroids due to the faster and more extreme pace of contemporary internet subculture revolving around streamers, digital communities, edits and the like.
If you have ever spent any amount of time with very looks focused and conscious people, you will almost always find a shallowness and narcissism that accompanies it. They are always paranoid about being wanted only for their looks, and yet they obsess over it, spend a lot of time and money and energy optimising it, as they structure their entire life around it.
If you really drill it down to its core though, it is a form of feminisation: an emphasis on physical attractiveness and ornamentation over the development of prowess and utility - it is to make physical beauty your apex value, and to obsess over maximising it to the point it is your central governing principle and lens for viewing both yourself and the world around you - I would look it as a type of quasi/proto materialist religion or internet cult, one of the many modes of extremism to be birthed by zoomers in their angst and desperation to be competitive in an unhospitable, largely unmeritocratic and rigged socially decaying civilization.
In girl world, it doesn't matter how competent you are: if you are not physically beautiful, your power and options are limited. Women thus have a natural obsession with looksmaxxing, which is why it comes naturally to them. Young men (mainly zoomers) are copying girls by adopting their psychology, but with a male twist: take it to its absolute extreme by any and all means possible. Most women don't take peptides or steroids or smash their bones or get surgery - they tend to max out at undereating, matching their clothes and wearing makeup.
Millennial metrosexuality was the men focusing more on their looks, using things like hair gel, skin creams, wearing tighter jeans - basically being more looks focused and clean cut looking - even reducing body hair. So "looksmaxxing" isn't entirely new, it's just the same idea taken to it's absolute extreme to include drugs, peptides, surgery and a worldview dominated by the obsession with this and the idea you'll be vindicated if you finally "ascend" (aka: become hot) - it assigns personal worth and social value entirely to physical appearance, which is what women naturally do and how they naturally judge one another.
Being well groomed and hygienic and presentable is one thing. Basing your entire mode of interacting with reality, socialising and improving yourself around becoming model tier hot by any means necessary is another. As someone who is not against extremes, I think this one is probably more harmful than it is helpful. It encourages vanity, body dysmorphia, narcissism, self-harm through risky surgeries, peptitudes and drugs, and ultimately for men to focus on being prissy little bitches obsessed with their eyebrow thickness and jaw shape, rather than developing genuinely formidability and utility.
Ultimately as a "philosophy" if you can even call it that, it is is the belief being physically attractive will get you everything you want in life by making someone else want to give it all to you due to their physical desire for you. This isn't even completely true for women, but is more true for them than men. I am reminded of Calhoun's mouse utopia experiment.
My thoughts on it are a lot more elaborate than this, but this is the best answer I can give you without writing a fully comprehensive essay on it.
As a general rule, if you don't see me comment on something, it's because I don't have much good to say about it and prefer to spend my energies articulating what I am for, rather than dismantling what I am against.
Replying to @SovereignIM
Hello IM, unrelated but what are your thoughts on looksmaxxing?
Your old content has briefly touched upon the importance of men improving in many areas including looks, why do you think this new phenomenon has occurred where it’s now a bigger part of the conversation?
If a man is socially conservative but learns to cook and cook well, and it is not due to some extreme natural passion for the craft or in relation to his vocation, then it is because he does not expect to marry.
When a man who sees ugliness says beautiful things, it means more than when a man who denies ugliness says beautiful things. The latter is a cheapened, lower, lesser form of appreciation - a coping mechanism through refusal via compartmentalisation. It reveals a gross lack within him, more specifically: a most profound weakness - he is not strong enough to truly see or confront things for what they are, so retreats into a fixation with beauty to soothe himself from his fears, wielding them perversely as counterarguments against less flattering truths, rather than recognising their co-existence.
But a man who can see ugliness and yet still focuses on the beautiful reveals the opposite: a profound strength of soul - he has successfully resisted the cynicism and ensuing resentment that are the all too natural byproducts of an observant intellect, and thus his love of beauty is more a mode of epistemic appreciation, orientation and declaration of intent than a means of avoiding the inhospitable. He does not need to deny the ugly or unflattering to preserve the beautiful, and does not wield the beautiful as a weapon against the ugly where that ugliness is true. He wields beauty to invigorate and inspire both himself and others, rather than as a counterargument for why something ugly but true isn’t true - he is governed by high truth preference, rather than by aesthetic preference.
This is why a man who only says beautiful things, whilst perhaps less offensive, should actually be more offensive, and he should be more offensive precisely because of his omissions - because he is too clean - because he avoids too much truth to be trustworthy, and thereby lacks the integrity of a man willing to confront and assert the ugly for no reason other than its utility or relevance, as opposed to a preference for its emphasis.
Contrarily, a man who may consistently say things you find jarring dotted in between things you find incredibly beautiful presents a more novel problem: how can someone capable of such beauty, beauty that, you as an ardent admirer of the aesthetic find breathtaking, also say such jarring things? Your reflexive defence is to dismiss them as merely cynical or uninsightful, and yet the very source of your displeasure here is the source of your great pleasure elsewhere.
This of course presents a genuinely novel problem for the more feminine minded: “why does this beautiful man keep saying ugly things?” or if we are less charitable: “how does this ugly man keep saying beautiful things?” - it is a seeming contradiction, and yet in reality, it is not when you understand the higher connecting principle: he merely states what he has concluded and believes to be true based on reasoning, intuition and experience regardless of whether that thing is particularly captivating or grating.
If he were less honest, as someone fluent in the beautiful he could tell you solely what seduces and entices in order to win you over and manipulate you, and so it is his willingness to tell you what you don’t want to hear, whilst being intelligent enough to anticipate your displeasure at having heard it without the intention to hurt you when stating it, that stands as testament to his integrity: he will risk being disliked for no reason other than to articulate a truth.
I have used man as the primary subject matter in my exploration here, but these orientations are not exclusive to man, in fact on the point of avoiding unflattering truths, what I am describing is far more common amongst women than men, that is to say: they are the category group more guilty of avoidance and denial whilst harbouring a preference for the aesthetic at the expense of the true, rather than reconciling the two. It is a high propensity to avoidantly self-soothe by compartmentalising, with a low propensity to confront and reconcile seeming opposites which ultimately leads to a low truth preference.
Those ruled by aesthetic preference over truth have a lower proof burden and higher affinity towards anything that strikes them as cute, soft, gentle, fragile, pretty, beautiful or otherwise highly aesthetic and sentimentally pleasing, and a higher proof burden and lower affinity towards anything that is truly insightful, but unflattering and difficult to hear because its implications indict or otherwise force confrontation with the self in a person used to hiding from themselves. I suppose in a sense to be high truth preference, one must possess a certain type of appetite, or dare I say niche masochism for the unflattering - to appreciate the reward of true and proper knowing which provides a more accurate and thereby more empowering map of reality, rather than succumb to an avoidant disdain for the discomfort and felt sense of humiliation that comes from enduring the unflattering and indicting.





