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Extended interviews where national security overlaps with entertainment, tech, culture and more. Hosted by @ShaneHarris, @DavidPriess and rotating Lawfare staff

At the frontiers of NatSec
Joined October 2021
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New on Chatter: Accusations of treason. Talk of secession. Lack of accountability for insurrection. Welcome to the 1860s. @DavidPriess chats with legal historian Cynthia Nicoletti about the troubled prosecution of Jefferson Davis and its relevance today.open.spotify.com/episode/0KF…
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New on Chatter: Author of “Off the Edge” and @thedailybeast reporter @KELLYWEILL joins @DavidPriess for a long chat about what drives people to conspiracy theories, flat earth briefs, and how they intersect with conspiracism and with political extremism:open.spotify.com/episode/1KO…
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Enjoyed speaking with @shaneharris about all things Glomar. Thanks @ThatWasChatter for the opportunity!
New on Chatter: The phrase “neither confirm nor deny” originates from attempts to uncover the facts of the amazing, secretive Glomar mission. @shaneharris talks to @MToddBennett all about it here: open.spotify.com/episode/3hJ…
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While this @ThatWasChatter podcast is about Grover Cleveland, it also includes this pet observation about presidential history: Until 1840, all evidence suggested the only way a president could lose reelection was to be a member of the Adams family. podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas…
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Loved talking to @andrewsweiss about his career as a Russia and Putin watcher, which he called on for his new graphic novel, Accidental Czar. podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas… @ThatWasChatter
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The latest from @ThatWasChatter: how the concept of comorbidity applies to the effects of pandemics, the relationship between plagues and political violence, the challenges of rumors and rapid communication, and more. Listen now: lawfareblog.com/chatter-podc…
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I had a fantastic time talking with @DavidPriess on @ThatWasChatter about spying from space, anti-satellite weapons, space debris, and popular depictions of space war. podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas…
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Today on Chatter, everything you ever wanted to know about Canadian intelligence. Former CSIS officer @AS_Kirsch discusses his memoir “I Was Never Here.” We talked about his training, operations he performed, and how he managed to get his book published. podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas…
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Latest @ThatWasChatter is on Josephine Baker’s remarkable and little known espionage career, which reveals much about the inner life of one of the 20th Century’s biggest stars. lawfareblog.com/chatter-podc…
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Thank you so much @DavidPriess & @kevbryantauthor, what an interesting topic.. ..Never realized there was so much spook stuff going on in the #NFL. Keep on rockin’ @lawfareblog!
New episode: The NFL regular season starts today! So @DavidPriess spoke with @kevbryantauthor, who wrote the book Spies on the Sidelines, about pro football intel collection, counterintel, and covert action—including, of course, Spygate and Deflategate:podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas…
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Tomorrow's Chatter will feature one of the most recognizable voices in American journalism, who happens to be a spy novelist. Sensing a theme here lately... Drops Thursday. @ThatWasChatter
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Exactly what @DavidPriess & I talked about on @ThatWasChatter last week -- how and why Americans change their minds on #climatechange -- glad to see real scholars backing up my supposition! link.springer.com/article/10…
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Really enjoyed this conversation with my former colleague (and fellow @ScharSchool prof) @DavidPriess on all things #climatesecurity.
Now on Chatter: @ErinSikorsky joins @DavidPriess to discuss the intersection of climate issues and national security through lenses of intelligence, policymaking, NATO, Russia's 2022 invasion of Ukraine, and (of course) Hollywood’s takes on the topic. podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas…
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We are so grateful to everyone who has been listening to the podcast. Please take a moment to leave a rating and review. It really does help others find us!
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If, like millions of readers, you're devouring the latest Gabriel Allon novel, then listen to this week's Chatter. Our guest will be the author himself, @danielsilvabook, for a wide-ranging conversation about his craft and career. @ThatWasChatter Drops Thursday
For the long weekend, listen to Chatter with Meredith Hindley @CapitolClio, who wrote DESTINATION CASABLANCA about the city’s actual wartime experience. She and @DavidPriess talked about one of the all-time great films and what it gets right and wrong. open.spotify.com/episode/5mL…
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Fantastic listen. I agreed w/ @DavidPriess mid-podcast, wishing that he could, in fact, talk to @cblatts for 18 hours about why we fight.
Today, we dropped a new episode with @cblatts about the root causes of protracted violence, paths to peace, and how it all relates to the war in Ukraine. If you haven’t listened yet, please do. We guarantee you will learn something. And @ThatWasChatter. open.spotify.com/episode/653…
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We’ve got another new, and quite timely, episode of Chatter dropping tomorrow. Find our recent shows here, and follow us wherever you get your podcasts. lawfareblog.com/topic/chatte… @thatwaschatter
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