Also: • why her 5-year-old thinks her job is taking care of an alligator named Claude • why Leaves of Grass and Yesteryear are both on her nightstand • why there should never be an AI czar Watch our interview here: youtube.com/watch?v=xH96JYvW…

In my conversation with Daniela, we explore: • why the discussion about recursive self-improvement has to include humans, not just the machines • the dance between humans and AI, and what happens when one partner keeps growing and the other stagnates • letting AI own intelligence and letting humans own wisdom, and why “@ClaudeAI can never be your manager, or your therapist, or your partner, or your kids” • how AI’s power of hyper-personalization can transform health, because health is also about what happens between doctor visits when we improve our daily habits around food, movement, sleep, stress management and connection • whether AI, unlike social media, can nurture our better angels instead of activating our lesser ones and strengthening the worst in us

With everyone at the company reporting to her, she is not only a key AI leader, but the most prominent woman leader at a time when the AI conversation is dominated by men. She’s at the forefront of frontier models, but she also studied literature, she played the flute, she’s a mother. She doesn’t just speak tech, she speaks about nature, community, friendship, and self-reflection.

Right now, 75% of Americans are anxious and afraid about AI. People are even bringing their concerns into their therapy sessions, sorting through everything from how AI impacts their jobs to more existential fears about humanity’s future. These concerns are real. But they’re only part of the story. To go deeper, I sat down with @DanielaAmodei. As president of @AnthropicAI, she is a unique figure in AI.

Most of us already know what supports better health, but the challenge is making those behaviors part of daily life. And today @Thrive Global and @Deloitte are launching a strategic relationship that makes it easier for people to move from awareness to action so they can build healthier habits and improve their health — one Microstep at a time. Currently, most U.S. healthcare spending is reactive, focused on treating illnesses and conditions after they occur. But Deloitte estimates that proactive “well-care” could save the country up to $2.2 trillion a year in medical and pharmacy costs. This number captures the enormous opportunity we have to move the needle. By bringing together Thrive’s AI-powered behavior change platform and Deloitte’s experience in health care transformation, data and analytics, digital innovation and large-scale implementation, we’ll help organizations harness the science-backed power of our daily behaviors — food, movement, sleep, stress management and connection — and scale behavior change to help people build healthier habits and routines. And starting in October, Deloitte will incorporate Thrive content across key areas of health into the wellbeing resources available to its U.S. workforce. Learn more about how Thrive Global and Deloitte are helping organizations support health and wellbeing through behavior change here: thriveglobal.com/deloitte