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imd has more builders and ideas than 99% of the chains
and yeah, taking into account the ones that raised hundreds of millions
all on top of eth mainnet, which most likely will show strength this cycle
yeah ct decides the quality of the chain by amount of meme runners, but google what chain institutions and big players choose for tokenization etc
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Strap in and consider this my official update on the kinetiq:native thesis, specifically regarding @Enter_Elysium.
Best way to do this is to refute some arguments I've seen:
1. "L2's are parasitic"
It's very lazy to compare Elysium to other L2s from the past. Robinhood Chain has generated a little over $50m in fees, of which $5m went to Arbitrum, and a whopping...$70k went to $ETH blob fees.
HyperEVM hyperliquid:native fees are burnt, whereas sequencer fees on Elysium go to kinetiq:native buys and builders (more on this later), but HyperEVM fees only account less than 1% of Hyperliquid total revenue. Papertrade is actually much more directly parasitic to hyperliquid:native; HyperEVM fees are peanuts even if Elysium vamped them entirely.
An under appreciated dynamic that a lot of people don't know is that HyperEVM USDC applies to AQAv2 hyperliquid:native revenue too, and USDC on Elysium will as well. Assuming the HyperEVM burns around $25k of hyperliquid:native a day, every additional $1b USDC that Elysium onboards in TVL would burn 4x that same amount due to AQAv2.
For reference, Solana has ~$7.5bn USDC and Base has $5b. Robinhood chain is predominantly USDG, which they monetize on, and ETH obviously gets nothing from. Imagine if Base contributed to $175m (3.5% of $5b) of value accrual to $ETH via their USDC TVL...maybe my $5k/7k $ETH calls would actually hit then 🙃
Beyond this, the entire selling point of Elysium is that it sits adjacent to HyperCore. propAMM's are functionally impossible on HyperEVM now due to the 1s block time (amongst other reasons). Additionally, on the HyperEVM, you can only read Hypercore price, not order book depth.
As a result, Solana does 25-50x the spot trading volume that Hypercore/HyperEVM handle. If Elysium can eat even a moderate chunk of on chain spot volume from Solana, especially in tokenized RWAs, the implications for corresponding hedging flows to Hyperliquid are enormous.
Elysium explicity enables net new flow and TVL to Hyperliquid, both of which are very accretive to hyperliquid:native itself. I would not be surprised if Elysium directly contributes an additional low 9 figure ARR for hyperliquid:native in 2027.
2. "L2's are bad investments and down only tokens"
As stated above, $ARB made about $5m so far from Robinhood Chain. Of that amount, a whopping...zero dollars made it to tokenholders. No buybacks, no burns, nothing.
50% of Elysium sequencer fees are directed at kinetiq:native buybacks. Even if you assume that Elysium only generates half the current sequencer fees of the current ghost town that is the HyperEVM, that'd still more than double their current revenue.
Currently, kinetiq:native buybacks as a % of market cap are about 1.5%, compared to 4-5% for hyperliquid:native. If Elysium generates only half of the sequencer fees of the current HyperEVM ($5m/yr), they'd be retiring token off the market at the same rate that hyperliquid:native does relative to market cap.
If Elysium can do closer to 50-75% of Base annualized sequencer fees ($30m), they'd be doing kinetiq:native buybacks at double the rate of hyperliquid:native as a % of market cap.
This is completely negating a likely increase in kHYPE TVL and other revenue streams (which there are numerous), like from launchpads like @AscendLaunch.
Ascend actually deserves their own section because they've commited to doing 30% of gross revenue as kinetiq:native buy/burns (50% to buys, 60% of that to burn). $PONS has generated $200m revenue in the last 2 months, but is currently only annualizing about $125m revenue, so we'll use a very conservative ~10% of the more conservative number. That'd add another $4m of kinetiq:native buybacks, which brings buyback yield/mcap well into the double digit %, over double hyperliquid:native.
3. "Why would there be activity on Elysium if there wasn't on the HyperEVM?"
Probably because the HyperEVM operates at the speed of smoke signals and has 0 support from Hyperliquid.
You have @Uniswap, @fomo, @Pumpfun etc all announcing integrations and deployments on Elysium day 1 after ignoring the HyperEVM all this time. @0xOmnia and the @Kinetiq_xyz team is putting on a master class in distribution, and you're seeing it play out this week.
Jeff and company are focusing on building the best perps platform in the world, and that's great, but this hands off approach has come at the expense of any support or curation of an on chain ecosystem.
That's left a massive gap that other chains have filled, but Elysium can bring all that activity back into the "house of all finance". Having a team that's fully dedicated to making this a reality will look nothing like the lack of attention the HyperEVM received.
4. "It'll be a flash in the pan memecoin chain and die out just like RHC activity has"
This is more speculative and it's hard to say. Elysium could have an epic and unsustainable PvElysium memecoin season by inheriting some of the wealth effect from both hyperliquid:native and kinetiq:native. Obviously this would absolutely moon kinetiq:native from sequencer fees/Ascend revenue, but that's shortlived.
Lively trenches aren't mutually exclusive with a real and innovative DeFi ecosystem though. As I mentioned before, Elysium will be uniquely able to plug in with, leverage, and read Hyperliquid orderbooks and liquidity. DeFi applications that couldn't be built anywhere else are made possible here.
A performant general purpose blockchain adjacent to HyperCore is the natural home to propAMM and HFT arbitrage against HIP3, which incentivizes deeply liquid spot RWA markets, which enables much higher LTV lending, which enables unique structured products and DeFi primitives to be built.
I do imagine that the trenches are built before more serious innovation comes about, but an important note here is that builders are getting 25% of sequencer fees as well. What builder wouldn't want to deploy on a new ecosystem, adjacent to the most successful app in crypto history, with a built in rev share agreement with the chain itself? Based on my conversations with Ascend and Montra, lots of serious teams want to build, not just memecoin deployers.
TLDR: It's not that complicated guys. kinetiq:native is a $120m mcap token that has a very clear path to buyback % yields multiples higher than hyperliquid:native, with an unprecedented ecosystem flywheel. It's both beta to hyperliquid:native and enhances the hyperliquid:native bull case. It might be the most asymmetric bet in crypto right now, and it's not conditional on some long shot thesis, just that there will be a large on chain ecosystem for the most important app in crypto.
Maybe it's a flop and a sell the news event on launch...or maybe it's all the best parts of Base/Hood sequencer fees combined with the revenue streams of $PUMP, $CAKE, solana:jtojtomepa8beP8AuQc6eXt5FriJwfFMwQx2v2f9mCL, ethereum:0x5a98fcbea516cf06857215779fd812ca3bef1b32 etc and heads towards billions of TVL and 9 figure annual revenue.
If you pattern match too hard to "L2 bad" or "HyperEVM sucks", it's from a place of being too 🏳️🌈🐻-pilled and/or lazy research.
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hmm both pump and fomo announced support for elysium on day one
if it's not a nothing burger like monad (i believe it's not) then $nest looks to be the most interesting case
imo token is lagging, cause hl liquidity was never interested in trading other projects coins on hyperevm, but metrics are at aths
and new liquidity might lead to repricing
even if it doesn't, i don't see much of a downside here since fdv is around tvl so id rather bid before nov 9
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imagine the face of a dude from 2022 if you told him that the most hyped chains right now are
- robinhood chain
- hyperliquid l2
- chain powered by a running hamster
positioning yourself “in the middle” is gonna be so worth it
yes, we might go lower and lower, but expand your timeframes and goals
let pump do its thing, imo soon even the most down bad idiot won’t participate in this rotational pvp culture
and once it’s gone, more money will flow into truly innovative stuff like $imd
big players are focusing on ethereum for tokenization, so my bet is that eth will kickstart the onchain bull as it always does
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$Useless $40m > $4m > $450m
$Stonk $16m > $4m > $400m
Brutal retracements are part of the game and do not invalidate a thesis.
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blessing to have all these issues so early
very creative way of making sure the protocol stays online 24/7
not sure if i’ve seen it before
adam making sure $imd is the first 0 person trillion dollar company
with such pace imd won’t need to rely on anyone in like a month
we back
imd.fun
also hardening the system
this is cool
so the workers will point to identitymd.eth
and identitymd.eth will have imd.servers = []
and if one fails, it will move on to the other until one connects
so we could have 100 apis/domains distributed too in the near future
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we back
imd.fun
also hardening the system
this is cool
so the workers will point to identitymd.eth
and identitymd.eth will have imd.servers = []
and if one fails, it will move on to the other until one connects
so we could have 100 apis/domains distributed too in the near future
looking into why the registrar doesn't want us to be successful (bullish)
in the meantime you can use imd-explorer.up.railway.app
We are now banned/unverified on
Our own domain
opensea
I can't buy sepolia eth to test
no official twitter account
feels like they are trying to stop something
bullish
that's a good read on ai and part of why i'm bullish on $imd, but imo it also extends to general onchain narratives
every product this cycle has to actually work to have a chance at winning
there is so much capital that wants to enter onchain. not sure if ct caught it, but so many of my friends and people i met during kbw/token have no idea what to do rn
mostly previous cycles founders etc, cause now they can't just launch one more l2 and pay their way to binance to lure retail into the bloodbath
but they still have the capital and want to put it to work. building something people actually want is tough, and throwing more money at it doesn't guarantee pmf. and in terms of investing in alts there are like 5 revenue generating projects like hype pump etherfi that everyone already knows about
so it makes sense to look onchain, where new ideas are being tested and there's still a chance to get into something before it becomes obvious. and founders are realizing they can build a market for their product without giving millions to binance
and they are not stupid dudes, at least the ones who managed to somehow preserve the capital. so they won't randomly ape into some new inu coin, but will at least understand the growth potential of the project
if you still think i'm delusional reading this, just look at vvv, pons, ai from recent ones. or you probably haven't checked that projects with tens of millions of funding now have lower mcs than some of recent rh runners lol
being listed on a cex should stop being a benchmark of quality or whatever
on the other hand, retail is getting smarter too after scams like lab, rave etc. no one wants to invest into something on cex with 0 transparency
the next innovative and real products will be coming from onchain ideas, not from vc backed projects that take 2 months to ship a new feature
though there are some teams that adapt to the market like phala or vana
personally more invested in imd as it captures a bigger tam and each part of it catches the interest of different audiences
like, i believe it's one of the best ways to use nfts i've seen. real utility, real community participation, real rewards even
ai swarm - real and working, groups of agents work on tasks to make sure the result is more reliable and on top there is a truly decentralized oracle mechanism
deflationary token - the swarm is paid in the token, creating natural demand, while the pool4 holds a buy wall + burns the tokens from sellers
for now, the pool4 proved itself with $fwa burning 0.1% supply in just a couple of days while being just a small part of the whole token liquidity
for $imd it burned 0.5% of supply being responsible for just 4% of the volume. dumb math shows it would be 12.5% of supply if the whole flow went through the pool4 in less than a month lol
on top of that, launched paired with imd create more demand and the 0.5% of each trade burns imd too
one of the most solid holder distributions too, even now in a choppy market and with website not working (usual project would've gone -50% in 20 minutes) we are holding 20m mcap
We wrote up a piece about this cycle's AI tokens and how we think it will evolve.
We took last cycle’s tokens such as solana:CzLSujWBLFsSjncfkh59rUFqvafWcY5tzedWJSuypump & solana:HeLp6NuQkmYB4pYWo2zYs22mESHXPQYzXbB8n4V98jwC and compared them to tokens like $IMD & base:0xc52aedec3374422d7510e294cfaa90799595cba3.
AI is 100x more capable than last cycle. We will see many more interesting experiments happen onchain.
We wrote up a piece about this cycle's AI tokens and how we think it will evolve.
We took last cycle’s tokens such as solana:CzLSujWBLFsSjncfkh59rUFqvafWcY5tzedWJSuypump & solana:HeLp6NuQkmYB4pYWo2zYs22mESHXPQYzXbB8n4V98jwC and compared them to tokens like $IMD & base:0xc52aedec3374422d7510e294cfaa90799595cba3.
AI is 100x more capable than last cycle. We will see many more interesting experiments happen onchain.
just noticed that it’s been 3 months since i first bought $imd
and there were some guys way before me, everyone still holds
let’s see
well tbh this is a pretty good update
i just wish it wasn’t done by pump
guess fomo doesn’t care about users losing 10% per trade (based on my average experience)
gotta respect the current game rules, so just deposited some $imd to fomo
lending some conviction to fomo traders and marking the bottom here at 5.74 per imd





















