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PIERS MORGAN DEMANDS ANSWERS from Israel’s ambassador: “You know exactly how many Hamas terrorists you’ve killed, but you have no idea how many children you’ve killed.” Her response? “We never target civilians.” Piers Morgan: Do you know how many children you’ve killed? Tzipi Hotovely: Piers, can I tell you something? One thing… Piers Morgan: Answer me that one question. Do you know how many Hamas terrorists you’ve killed and how many children you’ve killed? Do you know those two numbers? Tzipi Hotovely: I know the numbers that came from the IDF… Piers Morgan: Give me the two numbers. Tzipi Hotovely: We killed 30,000 terrorists in phase one of the war. Since the war is back, I don’t have the numbers. But we never target civilians. Piers Morgan: How many children have you killed? Tzipi Hotovely: Israel is not killing children. Hamas is using them as human shields. Piers Morgan: Israel is killing children every single day. Why pretend otherwise? Tzipi Hotovely: This is a blood libel you’re putting on Israel. You know it’s not true. Piers Morgan: The truth is you are killing a lot of children. My question is, how come you know exactly how many Hamas terrorists you’ve killed, but you have no idea how many children you’ve killed? Tzipi Hotovely: Israel is not deliberately killing children. Hamas is deliberately using the children as human shields. Piers Morgan: I don’t deny anything you say about Hamas. I despise Hamas. They are a despicable terrorist organization. Tzipi Hotovely: So help us win this war if you’re so despising Hamas! Piers Morgan: I’m curious why you know exactly how many Hamas terrorists have been killed, but you have no idea how many children have been killed. Why is it you know one number but not the other? Tzipi Hotovely: Because we never target civilians. We only target the terrorists. Piers Morgan: Are you saying no children have been killed in Gaza? Tzipi Hotovely: Hamas needs to be blamed for any child that is being killed in Gaza. Piers Morgan: It’s not propaganda. I’m asking you why you know how many terrorists you’ve killed, but you don’t know how many children you’ve killed in the process. Tzipi Hotovely: Because we targeted those terrorists, and we never targeted any civilians. Piers Morgan: But you know many thousands of civilians have been killed, you understand that? Tzipi Hotovely: Do you understand that you don’t care about my children, and other Israeli children, by letting October 7th happen again and again? Piers Morgan: Oh, I do. In fact, to my detriment, for many months, I was defending Israel’s right to defend itself. But now we’re at a point where more and more civilians are getting killed in collateral damage, and even your own former prime ministers think you’re committing war crimes. So don’t just couch all this as propaganda. Tzipi Hotovely: Can I accuse the UK of killing German children during the war? You would have said it’s absurd! Piers Morgan: Stop playing whataboutery. Explain why you know one number, but you don’t know the other.

Piers Morgan CHALLENGES Eli Erlick, a trans activist over biological males competing in women’s boxing: “If a 6-foot-5, 230-pound biological male wants to compete in women’s boxing, would you be happy with that?” Her response? “There are 6-foot-5, 300-pound cis women too.” The debate gets VERY interesting from here… Piers Morgan: So if a 6-foot-5-inch, 230-pound biological male boxer says, “I would like to compete in women’s boxing,” would you be happy with that? Eli Erlick: There are 6-foot-5, 300-pound cis women too. Can they not compete? Piers Morgan: They don’t have the same physiology as a biological male. They don’t have the same lung capacity or muscle mass. You have an in-built, superior physiological advantage over biological females. That’s the problem. Eli Erlick: Not necessarily. Estrogen absolutely wreaks havoc on our muscular systems, on our ability to perform in sports. It greatly affects our capacity to participate. Zuby: This is where a lot of the backlash against the so-called trans community comes from. When people start arguing about biological males competing in female sports, this is where people get lost. Eli Erlick: This isn’t about sports. It’s a gateway for the right to begin banning trans people from public— Piers Morgan: No, no, no. I’m not right wing. I want trans people to have fairness and equality, and the same human rights as everybody else. Eli Erlick: Even if you don’t personally consider yourself on the right, it’s still a gateway into banning trans people from different facilities outside of sports. Piers Morgan: I don’t want to ban trans people. I would like trans people to either compete against their own biological sex, which seems to me the easiest thing to do, or compete in a new section altogether of trans athletes. What’s wrong with that? Eli Erlick: So a new separate but equal league is what you’re saying. Zuby: The solution is very simple. Have an open sports league and a female-only sports league. If you want females to participate in sports, you need a separate league because they can’t compete in open competition against men. Piers Morgan: I completely agree.

PIERS MORGAN CORNERS a BLACK LIVES MATTER activist over a Black-only theatre night: “If I put on a whites only show, you would call it racism.” Her response? “Context.” His comeback? “Exactly! Exactly my point!” Piers Morgan: Those who are not black are asked not to buy tickets. The Theatre Royal Stratford East in London says no one's excluded from attending their new show, Tambo & Bones, but promotional material makes clear that white people aren't wanted at the production on the night in question. It says a Black Out night is a purposeful creation of an environment in which an all-black-identifying audience can experience and discuss an event in the performing arts free from the white gaze. So does this mean I can go if I identify as a black man? There'd be some on the woke side who would have trouble disagreeing with that given they believe in limitless self-identity. But more importantly, is it ever okay to exclude audiences based on skin color? What would happen, for example, if it was the other way around, if this was a whites-only audience? Well, I'm joined by the TalkTV contributor Esther Krakue and the Black Lives Matter organizer and activist, Iman Ayton. It's alright, Iman, I'm just trying to picture what would happen if I put on a theatrical production in London and said it was for whites only, or people identifying as white, which is obviously a ludicrous phrase, but you would go nuts. You would say that is blatant racism, segregation, dragged us kicking and screaming back to the dark days of appalling bigotry. You would. Iman Ayton: Well, it depends on the context, right? Piers Morgan: No, it doesn't. Whites-only audience, no black people allowed. What would you say? Iman Ayton: Well, I think you're perfectly right, it would be akin to racists finding more ways to be more racist. Piers Morgan: So why is it okay this way round? Iman Ayton: Okay, so we have to put it into context. It was one out of the 29 shows... Piers Morgan: Doesn't matter. Iman Ayton: Yes, it does. Let's put it into context, Piers. You want to forget about context, context is everything. It is one out of the 29 shows that was targeted towards black people. And at no point did they say certain people were excluded. In fact, they actually said it verbatim on their website: "no one is excluded." And yet, you have found racism. How does that work? Piers Morgan: No, no, I just read the rest of what they said. It's pretty clear you are not supposed to go if you're not black. Iman Ayton: No, please consider booking other dates. Piers Morgan: Right. Exactly. Esther Krakue: I think the context is important. I think the issue here is when it's talking about blackouts and it's trying to gather an audience of black people that they believe have the same experience, this doesn't transpose the same way it does in the US in the UK. A black person in the UK could be black African, black British, black from the Caribbean. In the US, their conversation around race is completely different, and that's why it's a problem. Obviously, when you bring this to the UK, people are going to be like, "what are you talking about?" This is especially in London, the most multicultural city in the country. Piers Morgan: Can you see any merit to it? Esther Krakue: Of course not, and I don't even think it makes sense in the American context. Iman Ayton: But why is that? If you're talking about safe spaces, because let's just be clear we're talking about safe spaces. Piers Morgan: What is a safe space? What does that mean, you wouldn't feel safe if I came along?

PIERS MORGAN CHALLENGES a transgender activist: “Why can’t I identify as a Black lesbian?” Her response takes an unexpected turn when he asks how many genders there are. Then he brings up the BBC teaching children there are 100 genders. Piers Morgan: Okay. Why can't I identify as a Black lesbian? Angelica Malin: Well, firstly, I mean... Piers Morgan: I'm serious. I'm serious. If I can identify as anything without any need to prove I'm actually what that is, why can't I on International Women's Day say, "I'm Piers Morgan, I'm a Black lesbian"? Angelica Malin: I think taking it to a kind of absurd status... Piers Morgan: No, no. I think that's... With respect, I think that you've already opened the absurdity door by saying it is limitless. You can do what you like. Anyone can say, "I'm a woman." So I simply ask you, why can't I? Angelica Malin: I mean, this point kind of ridicules trans people to an extent. Piers Morgan: Actually, I think what you said ridicules trans people because actually people who go through the full process of transition, who actually go through what we used to call a sex change which I don't think you can muck around with original biology but those who actually go through surgical procedures over a number of years, I've got great respect for that very difficult journey they go on. I have zero respect for people who just wallop their hand up and go suddenly, "I'm a woman," and I want all the rights that a woman has, and I want to compete, say, in sport. I'm a 6 ft 4 in athlete sprinter, swimmer, whatever who's competed very mediocrely in male sport. I now want to come in and crush women in swimming pools and in sprinting events and break all their records, perhaps irrevocably, just by saying, "I'm a woman." I think that is the absurdity you were talking about. My response was to say, "Well, if it's limitless, why can't I then say whatever I want to say?" And you say immediately, as I knew you would, "Well, that's ridiculous." But my point is, you were being ridiculous. Angelica Malin: Well, that's your opinion. You can think I'm ridiculous, but I don't think you can say... Piers Morgan: I don't know why I am, but you're not. Angelica Malin: I don't think you can say it's post-op is the only way that someone's allowed to identify... Esther Krakue: The original standard for... Hold on. The original standard for being transgender was being diagnosed with gender dysphoria, which is a legitimate condition. And now it's been, "Oh, however way you feel." So if you feel on Tuesday you're a woman and on Thursday you're a pizza, that's perfectly valid. But to you, that's ridiculous. And I want to know why that is ridiculous. We should be talking about actual women on International Women's Day. That's not crazy. Angelica Malin: I mean, I agree with that. But what is your idea of an actual woman? Esther Krakue: The chromosomes. It's pretty clear. Piers Morgan: It's an adult female. It's not difficult. Esther Krakue: The chromosomes are a pretty good indication. Angelica Malin: I don't think you have to be biologically female to identify... Esther Krakue: Then you are wrong. Because then I can identify as a fox. Angelica Malin: Yeah, but again, it's a bit of an absurd point. Piers Morgan: You can't. Well, let me ask you this. Let me ask you this, Angelica. How many genders are there? Angelica Malin: Two. Piers Morgan: There are two genders? Wow. So you don't believe in transgenders at all? Angelica Malin: Well, I think... I think there are... Piers Morgan: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa! There are two genders? Angelica Malin: Well, it's taught in... Piers Morgan: What, did you say "well"? You've literally just launched this huge defense of transgenderism. Now you've eradicated it. If there are two genders, you mean male and female, right? Angelica Malin: There's gender fluidity. I will... Esther Krakue: Fluid between what? Piers Morgan: Between what?

PIERS MORGAN DESTROYS BENJAMIN BUTTERWORTH WITH HIS “TWO-SPIRIT PENGUIN” ARGUMENT BUT INDIA WILLOUGHBY’S INTERVENTION TAKES THE DEBATE TO ANOTHER LEVEL. “You want me to respect all those hundred genders, however ludicrous some of them are…” Was Piers making a legitimate point or mocking non-binary people? Susanna Reid: Why do you think Piers is so offensive? Benjamin Butterworth: The way Piers talks about trans people, and specifically non-binary people, is that you mock them, you make fun of them. You use them as entertainment. Susanna Reid: When has he done that? Piers Morgan: Yeah, be specific. Benjamin Butterworth: When you claim that you’re a two-spirit penguin. Piers Morgan: Because you and I had this debate about the hundred genders. If you can identify in a hundred different ways your gender, then I am entitled to identify as a two-spirit penguin. In other words, there are no limits. You want me to respect all those hundred genders, however ludicrous some of them are, but you have zero respect for my right to identify myself in any way I see fit. Benjamin Butterworth: Being a penguin isn’t a gender. That’s not on the gender spectrum. Susanna Reid: Can’t you see how he’s taking it to the absurd degree? Benjamin Butterworth: It doesn’t matter how many times you pretend to be Pingu Morgan, that’s still not a gender that people can identify with. Piers Morgan: Imagine being India Willoughby, who has gone through transitioning, an extraordinarily difficult emotional, psychological, and physical process. Then when you finally get to transition to be a woman, having wanted to be that your whole life, you get told, actually, it’s meaningless because there are now a hundred ways to identify a gender. India Willoughby: Piers is a beacon of light. Transgender now has become something completely different. It’s about floating about in the middle, no commitment, you pick and choose who you want to be. Benjamin Butterworth: Drag is a beautiful art form. India Willoughby: No, it’s not a beautiful art form. I find drag far more offensive than anything Piers says. Drag is gay men dressing up as women in a flamboyant way, making a mockery of gender. Benjamin Butterworth: Why is it okay for you to turn to non-binary people and say you don’t recognize their identity? India Willoughby: I no longer identify as trans, because it’s become so embarrassing because of people like you and what you champion. I’m ashamed of it; it’s awful. Piers Morgan: You’re not compassionate, are you? I’ve rarely been subjected to more foul abuse on social media than I have in the last few days.

Piers Morgan CONFRONTS a vegan climate activist Orla Coghlan over almonds and avocados, accusing him of hypocrisy: “You don’t care about bees being murdered. You’re killing billions of bees and destroying the planet, yet you preach about saving animals!” His final response? “I’m certainly allowed to eat meat when someone kills bees to feed their avocado habit!” Piers Morgan: Do you eat almonds? Do you drink almond milk? Orla Coghlan: I’m here to talk about the climate crisis. Piers Morgan: Do you eat avocados? Orla Coghlan: I eat a plant-based diet. Piers Morgan: Do you eat avocados? Orla Coghlan: Yes. Piers Morgan: Great. A leading study says billions of bees are slaughtered so that you can have your almonds and avocados. Why don’t you care about the little guys? Orla Coghlan: Can I say that there— Piers Morgan: It’s total hypocrisy, isn’t it? You don’t care about bees being murdered. Orla Coghlan: Will you let me speak? I’ve been brought on the show to answer your questions. Piers Morgan: I think you’re a hypocrite, like a lot of vegans I’ve met. You don’t seem to realize that your almonds and avocados involve the slaughter of billions of bees. Piers Morgan: You believe in the climate crisis? Orla Coghlan: Yes. Piers Morgan: Animal agriculture, farming and fishing are leading causes of the climate crisis. But you know what’s also damaging? Planes carrying your avocados and almonds from California thousands of miles to your vegan cafes. You’re killing billions of bees and destroying the planet, yet you sit here preaching about saving animals and the environment! Orla Coghlan: I hear that you’re very frustrated. I would really like to respond. Piers Morgan: Go on, then. Orla Coghlan: A leading study from Oxford, the most comprehensive study on food and climate ever done, says animal products farming animals and fishing are the leading cause. Piers Morgan: Is a bee an animal? Orla Coghlan: I’m not finished. It surpasses— Piers Morgan: Is a bee an animal? Orla Coghlan: Piers, can I— Piers Morgan: Of course a bee is an animal! If a bee’s an animal, why are you slaughtering them? Orla Coghlan: Both almonds and avocados are less damaging to the planet— Piers Morgan: Oh, they are less damaging! And what about how they get from California? What about the trucks across Europe? Piers Morgan: I’m starving, and you’re not going to persuade me. My response to you destroying all these things is to have a Big Mac. It’s a free country, it’s a democracy. I’m allowed to eat meat, and I’m certainly allowed to eat meat when someone who kills bees to feed their avocado habit lectures me!

James Barr EXPLODES at Jordan Peterson’s Auschwitz comparison on Piers Morgan’s show but Esther Krakue agrees with Peterson’s underlying argument. The debate takes an unexpected turn. Piers Morgan: “Before we come to the rest of the pack, this is Jordan Peterson. He's gotten into a furore over his video about pride. Where he says a sexually narcissistic movement headed for a fall because it's been taken over by the radical trans lobby. Let's take a look.” Jordan Peterson: “There is a real tinge of narcissism, sexual narcissism, trans-pushing, gender-affirming butchers and liars, primarily target young people whose most likely outcome on the sexual front is homosexuality. “ “I don't like the flag. I think it's a piece of idiocy. I don't understand why it changes every bloody week. And I think the surgery, the gender-affirming care movement, I think it is Nazi Auschwitz-level awful.” James Barr: “What on earth is that closeted gay man wearing? That is an abomination! That is a crazy load of absolute bullshit. I'm sorry, that is insane. How dare he say that about Auschwitz? Gay people were killed alongside Jewish people and disabled people in the Holocaust. That is disgusting, Piers. “ “That is disgusting. You shouldn't even be giving that airtime. Piers Morgan: Well, he's a very famous guy. James Barr: Yeah, but we shouldn't be listening to what he thinks. I mean, he says loads of nonsense.” Piers Morgan: Well, you say loads of nonsense. I don't de-platform you. Esther Krakue: I do agree with you, James. Wow. That drawing likeness to Nazis and Auschwitz is a bit extreme. However, he does make a valid point... Piers Morgan: “But he was talking specifically about the butchery of gender-affirming care. That's what he was talking about.” Esther Krakue: “There is nothing positive about basically castrating people and chopping off their breasts and their sexual organs, trying to affirm anything other than some deep psychological distress.” And I think that's the point he should have made instead of comparing it to Auschwitz. Because it doesn't always have to be compared to Auschwitz. That's a very touching topic. James Barr: “Everything that's been said here so far, I could write an essay about it. I have so much to say, and it's difficult to just respond to literally all of the insane things that have been coming out of your mouths over the last 10 minutes “

Senator John Kennedy PRESSES Kelley Robinson on biological advantages in women’s sports but Riley Gaines steps in with a brutal real-world example involving Serena Williams and her own swimming experience! Senator John Kennedy: Do you think there are more than two sexes? Ms. Kelley Robinson: I believe that there's a definition for intersex as well that I want to acknowledge, but sex is a sign of birth. Senator John Kennedy: Okay, I'm just trying to understand, I'm thoroughly confused. So you're born, I'm talking about biology, male, female and what else? Ms. Kelley Robinson: I believe that intersex is also acknowledged. But again, I'm not a doctor here, what I can say is that there's a difference between sex and gender, and I think in these conversations we're conflating the two. Senator John Kennedy: Well, but I want to start with sex. Ms. Kelley Robinson: Okay, there’s a male. There's female, when a baby's born before the baby has had time to even have a sense of self, there's male, female, and intersex is the third sex. Ms. Kelley Robinson: I believe that is true, but I would defer to Dr. Lopez as I'm not a physician. Senator John Kennedy: How many genders are there? Ms. Kelley Robinson: I think the gender is expansive and the definitions are always growing. You know, today I can tell you I talk to young people that talk about non-binary, I think the gender is not a binary is what I'm trying to say. Senator John Kennedy: But are there more than five genders? I'm just trying to understand. Are there more than five genders? Ms. Kelley Robinson: Well, I mean I think that there was a time where women wearing pants didn't feel like it was appropriate for their gender and yet I'm wearing pants today. I think that there are ways that we express ourselves that are expansive. Senator John Kennedy: Are there more than five? Ms. Kelley Robinson: I wouldn't subject myself to naming how many genders there are, but what I can say is that genders are a reflection Senator John Kennedy: Excuse me? Ms. Kelley Robinson: There's an infinite number of genders. I think depending on your culture, there are a lot of different genders that exist. And I can also say that it's a term that's evolving. If you look at young people today, they really don't lean into the binary of only woman and man. So I think that it's on us not to legislate on this, but create space for them to explore what their identities are, what their gender identities are. Senator John Kennedy: Let's get back to athletics. I think I understand what you're saying. There are three sexes, male, female, and intersex. I believe that to be true, but again, I'm not a physician. And there are an infinite number of genders because gender is a mental state. Gender is about expression and I think that there are a variety of ways that you can express your gender. Okay, so there's an infinite number. All right, let's go back to the biology. Male, female, boy, girl, okay? Biologically, do males have an advantage over females biologically in sports? Ms. Kelley Robinson: Again, I'm not a physician and I can't speak to that. Senator John Kennedy: What's your real-world experience? Ms. Kelley Robinson: It depends. I mean, there are some people who are born male that I'm faster than if I were to sprint against them, and some that I'm not. Some males that are taller than some women and some that are shorter. Senator John Kennedy: So you don't believe that a biological male has a physical advantage in sports over a biological female? Ms. Kelley Robinson: Not as a definitive statement. Senator John Kennedy: Give me an example. Ms. Kelley Robinson: Well, no, I don't think... how many female members of the NBA do you see?