reality is that streaming itself is only a small part of why some streamers get paid so much
there are people getting paid way more than actual streamers just because they've built high value communities with players who wager a lot
at the end of the day casinos don't necessarily care how much you stream, they care about how many players you bring and how much volume your affiliate code generates
that's also why you see some streamers hiring other people to stream for them while they work behind the scenes
setting up VIP transfers, onboarding new players and constantly trying to bring more people under their code
that's the hard part and what actually makes you more valuable
of course streaming and having good viewership helps but if I had to put a percentage on it I'd say it's maybe 15-25% of the actual work if not less
obviously it depends on the type of streamer but I think a lot of people believe all they need is a casino deal and to press start streaming and the money will just keep coming
you might get away with that for a short term deal but no casino is gonna keep paying you long term if you're not putting in the work behind the scenes
Question for all gambling streamers, how can you grow your affiliate code ( your value in the online casino world ) if you don’t stream? Surely no casino gives a fuck if you have 5-10k followers, they care about what gamblers you bring, so how can you grow your code? Or promote your leaderboard if you don’t stream? Genuine questions
HOLY FUCK @TheGoobr JUST WON $4 MILLION ON ONE BLACKJACK HAND 😭
He doubles down on 11 and gets a PERFECT 21 against the dealer's 10
WHAT ARE THE FUCKING ODDS OF THIS
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Gamdom owner @Romer opens up about the hack and its aftermath in an interview with @GamblingLore 👀
He says paying the hackers would only encourage them to target others and reveals his team spent 60 hours on a call trying to bring the site back online 👇
CZ says Binance will cover the losses even if they end up being higher than the estimated $1B
latest reports show over $5B drained with around $2.4B frozen so far
over $1.4B is in BTC and at least $450M in ETH which can't be frozen like USDT or USDC
Binance appears to have just suffered one of the biggest crypto hacks in history with billions of dollars moved out of wallets linked to the exchange in a matter of minutes
the suspicious activity started around 20:24 UTC when one of Binance's hot wallets transferred over 167,000 ETH, $1.6B in USDT and more than 60 other tokens to a newly created wallet
shortly after another Binance wallet sent 780M USDC to the same address while additional ETH was also moved from other wallets
what makes this especially suspicious is that the address behind the transactions was funded through Tornado Cash, a crypto mixer used to hide where funds originally came from
the funds then started getting split across multiple new wallets with some of the crypto being moved almost immediately
initial reports estimated around $2.7B in suspicious outflows but newer reports have put the figure above $3B on Ethereum alone, with some estimates going as high as $5.5B across multiple chains
Tether and Circle were quick to react and froze nearly $1.8B in stablecoins linked to the incident
CZ confirmed that Tether froze around $971M in USDT while Circle froze another $823M in USDC
that's almost $1.8B that can no longer be moved by whoever controls those wallets, although the funds haven't actually been recovered yet
CZ also addressed the situation saying user funds are safe and that he expects everyone to be fully covered
he clarified that he no longer manages Binance and was speaking as a shareholder
Binance itself has acknowledged the suspicious activity and says its security team is investigating but hasn't officially confirmed the breach or any impact on user funds yet
the exchange also has its SAFU emergency fund designed to protect users during major security incidents although there's no confirmation it will be needed here
for now the exact amount stolen, how the attacker managed to access these wallets and how much of the remaining funds can be recovered are still unknown
if the reported losses are confirmed this could end up being the biggest crypto hack we've ever seen
you tried to hide the name of the site but we can see from the leaderboard details "$1k roo" that it's Roobet
and yes unfortunately a lot of creators are on deals like this where they get $1k-$2k in fills but can only cash out 10-20% of it
and on top of that the casino puts a monthly cashout cap to protect themselves which I find pretty funny
if you lose all your fills they don't care that you end up making $0 but if you somehow win big they don't want to take any risk themselves
now regarding splitting leaderboards I can understand it when the creator decides to do it themselves
for example the casino offers a $5k leaderboard and the creator adds another $5k from their own pocket to make it more attractive for players
but when the casino itself requires the creator to cover part of the leaderboard on an already pretty low paying deal I don't think that makes much sense
and the funny part is that a lot of these deals are structured in a way where it's pretty easy to hit your monthly cashout cap anyway
so you're basically on a fixed payment deal just with extra steps
once you hit your cap you're literally gambling with fake money, there's no other way to sugar coat it
it also puts you in a pretty awkward position in front of your audience
imagine hitting a $10k win on stream and everyone thinks you just made $10k when in reality you can only cash out $2.5k of it or potentially nothing if you've already hit your cap
of course some streamers are transparent about their deals which is maybe fine but a lot of viewers probably have no idea how these things work
the old fixed payment + fake balance model has basically turned into today's percentage cashout + monthly cap deals
just a more glorified version of the same thing
main reason streamer pay keeps getting inflated is new casinos thinking they can become successful just by poaching a few streamers from bigger sites and offering them more money
a lot of streamers only think about how much they can make next month without considering whether the deal is sustainable long term
so they immediately jump to the new casino and suddenly their ego gets boosted because they genuinely start believing they're worth that amount
but try offering an established streamer with actual loyal players on a top casino even 50% more than what they're currently making and most of them would still refuse
they understand there's more to a good partnership than just the highest payment
and if a streamer is willing to immediately leave their casino just because you offered them a bit more money, maybe that's already a red flag
what's stopping them from doing the same to you tomorrow?
💀 Had a spicy convo last night in a private chat with streamer managers from some of the biggest casinos in the space. Everyone is finally saying it out loud. The streaming market is COOKED.
Creators with mid stats are asking for $50-200k in monthly fixed, and the pitch is always the same, "trust me bro, my community is massive." In reality it's the same 3 high rollers following the streamer from casino to casino. The brand pays the deal, and next month the whales leave with him. For $100k you can sign solid sports and IRL guys who will bring THOUSANDS of low/mid players through organic traffic, and those players will actually pay the deal back over time.
If you're getting paid $100k a month, you're not just a creator making content anymore. That's serious money, and at that point you have to see yourself as an affiliate, as someone who drives traffic to the casino. You're a business. You can't take that kind of money, give the casino zero guarantees and just sit on the fixed. Any agency or media buying team works with budgets too, but they have teams, they give guarantees, and most of their money comes from RS because they bring quality players. Their fixed usually covers operating costs or/and goes straight into the marketing budget to bring those players in. It should work the same way with streamers.
And the whole "I won't take NGR share because I don't want to make money off my players losing" thing is the dumbest excuse in the industry. Bro, the casino pays you out of what players lose. You're in gambling. Over the long run the casino is always up, that's just how it works. You're already promoting something where the player is expected to lose. It's entertainment and fun, not a way to make money. You don't value your audience, you just want to finesse the casino because your traffic is bad and that's the only argument you've got.
Need a raw balance and only play with real money? No problem. Here's your fixed, use it however you want. Play with it on stream, invest in a team, buy extra traffic sources that help you grow as a media personality and bring in players. If you're getting $100k a month, you have to be worth $100k a month, not just ride the hype and grab the bag because the market lets you.
Instead a lot of them abuse the casino and don't even hide it. Leaderboards are the best example. The casino sponsors the LB, the streamer pays his friends and mods out of the deal money, they climb to the top, take the prizes, pump the wager numbers, and the streamer looks like he's killing it. The casino is basically paying for fake activity.
The good creators already get it. They ask for RS first, some even take less fixed to get a better RS, because they know their players are real and they want to stay longer than one contract.
But this is on us too. Casinos and managers pushed these prices up because they can't do the payback math, they've got KPIs and budgets to spend, and I'm pretty sure some of them are getting kickbacks from the same streamers they sign. One casino can't fix this alone. Lower your offers and the next site signs the guy for the same money. It only changes when the big brands stop feeding it, with RS as the core of every deal, LBs built around real players and fixed fees that match the numbers.
Streamers need to calm their appetite. Managers need to learn the math. And all of us need to think about this now, before the snowball eats the whole space.
> Your Telegram DMs seem to be edited with ChatGPT
> That affiliate dashboard is 100% fake and doesn't even exist
> Yeah we totally believe someone offered you $15k bi-weekly fixed
> Easy way to farm some impressions by spreading lies
> "We do only fake money on Gamdom" 😂
Just to let you know Gamdom Partners @TheGoobr and @stevewilldoit all this scammers @mockerbey @yungreal69 is fake as fuck all Gamdom streamers playing with Fake money. Disgusting scammers the whole Gamdom..
I got a deal bi weekly $15,000 but declined!
Thanks anyway @Romer
TLDR of the @mconthatgambles vs @stevewilldoit drama:
MC made a thread on X saying he was Steve's #1 wagerer on Gamdom with around $45M wagered under his code and roughly $1M in losses
he admits Steve treated him extremely well during his first month and was giving him ridiculous bonuses on top of what Gamdom was already offering
however during the second month MC claims Steve started ghosting him, the extra bonuses got smaller or stopped completely and he started having issues with Steve's mod @kingadukes
he also accused ADukes of receiving hundreds of thousands in VIP tips that allegedly weren't being distributed properly and claims he was even asking him for loans
MC eventually left Gamdom and around 2 weeks later got a sponsorship with Dicey
things escalated when Steve posted about Gamdom having the best sports odds and MC publicly disagreed with him
Steve responded pretty aggressively and accused MC of being a clout chaser who used his connections to get deals elsewhere
Steve also said he personally gave MC around $200k and even his private phone number but eventually stopped dealing with him because of how he was acting
the extra rewards Steve was giving his VIPs were never advertised as guaranteed bonuses and were simply additional tips he would give out at his own discretion
Gamdom owner @Romer also got involved saying MC had been rewarded extremely well and suggested his new Dicey sponsorship was influencing his criticism
MC has since responded again saying his issue was never about being entitled to bonuses but rather being ignored, how ADukes handled the VIP funds and Steve insulting him after everything
he has also now said he's done with the Twitter drama since it's turning into a he said she said situation and doesn't see anything coming out of it
some of these gambling streamers are getting paid ridiculous amounts just because they have a big following
meanwhile I'm doing better affiliate numbers than most of them without even streaming
941 signups, over $10.1M wagered and $20.5k in referral earnings
think it's time I start asking casinos for a proper deal
the problem is I faked every single one of those numbers in just a couple of minutes
the video below shows how easy it would be for someone to fake their affiliate stats and use them to get casino sponsorships they don't actually deserve
someone could buy a verified channel, fake followers, viewers and comments, run a few giveaways to make the engagement look real and then start approaching casinos with their impressive affiliate stats
with the setup I used in the video I can change pretty much any number on a website and make it look completely real
I've already seen streamers getting scammed by similar things where someone fakes their deposits or losses to claim lossback and the streamer doesn't bother checking properly
and the scary part is that it's even more convincing when someone already has some real players and affiliate activity
imagine a streamer who already has some decent affiliate numbers but not enough to get a big deal
they could just multiply those numbers by 10 and suddenly look like a much more valuable affiliate
and this also makes things worse for creators who are actually legit
casinos now have to go through multiple steps of verification before signing someone which can obviously be pretty annoying for genuine creators who have nothing to hide
I've also seen people asking for phone recordings because they think those can't be tampered with
but as you can see in the video we're doing this on a phone and even after constantly refreshing the page all the fake stats are still there
on PC it's even easier to manipulate what you're seeing
so whether you're a casino negotiating with a streamer or a creator giving out bonuses, don't trust screenshots or recordings alone
always double check the numbers directly with casino staff because even getting on a call and watching someone go through their stats doesn't necessarily prove anything
first of all I think the whole loans and markers culture in the gambling community has gotten way too normalized
we constantly see people borrowing money to gamble and I really don't think bigger streamers should be endorsing or encouraging this kind of thing
now regarding @Scoobyz88, it looks like he still hasn't paid back the ~$20k he owes @babix_betbolt and that's a pretty terrible look
what makes this even weirder is that from what I've seen his Stake deal seems to be worth somewhere around $60k a month
obviously I don't know the exact terms of his deal, how much he actually cashes out or whether he has a lot more debt elsewhere
but if he's really getting anywhere close to that amount in fills, $20k is only a third of his monthly payment
you would think he could just chill for a couple of streams, gamble a bit safer and put his cashouts towards sorting out the debt instead of letting things get to this point
again there could be a lot more going on behind the scenes that we don't know about but the whole situation is pretty weird
now do I think Stake will actually drop him over this? probably not
from what we've seen I don't think Stake is likely to get involved in situations like this unless it directly affects their partnership
and to be fair we already know Stake's stance on these loans and markers
they don't give their creators markers themselves and don't endorse this kind of lending either
either way it's pretty wild seeing creators on deals this big getting involved in $20k loan disputes
🚨 Scammer alert @Scoobyz88
We would strongly recommend you do not deal with this individual. He took $20,000 from us, agreed to the terms twice, and it seems he has 0 care in the world about paying it back.
Let's dive into it 🧵
TJR is the first and currently the only @getonmoon affiliate with their badge on X
this move shouldn't really come as a surprise considering he joined Stake around 2 weeks ago and is one of the biggest influencers in the trading space
it's pretty much a no-brainer to have him as one of the main faces of Moon
Shuffle might have just pulled off one of the smartest marketing moves we've seen from a crypto casino in a long time
they signed @dohertyjackk to a deal that apparently prevents him from posting on social media for 6 months
sounds ridiculous at first but when you look at how much people dislike Jack and how much attention this story has already brought to Shuffle, you start to understand why this might actually be a brilliant marketing move
first let's look at how this whole thing started
on September 28 Jack Doherty was talking about going live on Kick to trade memecoins when Shuffle's official account replied saying they would literally pay him to shut up
at the time it just looked like another brand trolling Jack since he's one of those creators who gets an insane amount of hate online
then a few days later Jack posted that he was looking for sponsorships and Shuffle came back saying their original offer was actually legit
fast forward to October 10 and Jack suddenly announces that he signed a contract with Shuffle without reading it properly and apparently isn't allowed to post on social media anymore
Shuffle's co-founder @noahdummett then confirmed that the deal was real and had a 6 month term, even saying it was money well spent to get Jack off the internet
as of right now Jack's original post has over 12.3M views and is now marked as a paid partnership which wasn't the case when it was first posted
Noah's quote tweet is sitting at over 16M views and a bunch of other big accounts covering the story have also pulled millions of views each
so just from the amount of attention this generated you can already see how well this worked out for Shuffle
and the funniest part is Shuffle didn't even need people to like Jack for this to work
they basically turned all the hate he gets into millions of impressions and positive attention for their own brand
now of course I wouldn't be surprised if Jack is back soon streaming and creating content for Shuffle instead of actually disappearing for 6 months
I guess we'll just have to wait and see!
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Featuring: @xposed, @thegoobr, @jelitics, @roshteins & @trainwreckstv
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sittin' out on my porch, I'm in disbelief
Clarence has been typing at 150 WPM since he was eleven years old.
Eleven. 11.
While other kids were outside touching grass, Clarence was in Type Racer demolishing grown men in typing races. Undefeated. Infinite aura. Unspoken rizz. Spoken about only in whispers.
And what did he get for it?
Nothing.
No trophy. No parade. His mother did not care at all. His classmates bullied him. He told a girl at a party once and she said "oh cool" and then went and talked to a D1 basketball athlete.
He put "fast typist" on a CV once. A man in a suit looked at it and said "right" and then proceeded to ask him where he saw himself in five years.
Fifteen years of elite hand speed and the only thing it ever won him was being the fastest person in the group chat to say "first"
Meanwhile the universe is handing out money to people who can throw a ball into a hoop.
A hoop. It's like we are still in the stone age.
Clarence can type the entire opening of Don Quixote before you finish reading this post and society said "yeah but can you dunk"
Well.
Type Racer is live. 1v1. for money.
Fifteen years, Clarence. Fifteen years.
Get your money.
And you know what? maybe I am the Clarence in question. it's my time to shine, probably gonna cut off all my day 1's and go hollywood
Let me rephrase I WILL forget ALL OF YOU, duel is calling out my name.
I am being summoned and will take all of your $$
expect me. like you expect death.
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WTF DID @TheGoobr JUST DO?? 🤯
Hits a $500K win on Power of Ten OFF STREAM → goes live → runs it all the way up to $3.5 MILLION !!
Mitch Jones just signed one of the craziest gambling deals I've seen in a while
$420k in daily fills on Rainbet
so I wanted to break down his deal and see how paying someone this much can actually make sense for Rainbet
first let's talk about the deal itself which Mitch shared publicly on his Twitter
he gets $420k in daily fills sent to a separate account under the username MitchJonesVault
from there he can tip however much he wants over to his main streaming account Mitchjones and gamble with it
there's no max cashout per stream and no bullets either, meaning if he loses the balance quickly there are no extra refills
the deal also lists a $5k weekly tipping allowance which a lot of his fans pointed out is basically a meme left over from his first deal
because in reality Mitch says he's already giving away $200k+ almost every day across Twitter, Discord and Twitch
now let's go over some numbers on Mitch's main socials
he has almost 750k followers on Twitch where he averages around 7k viewers with peaks of 10k+
and 170k+ followers on Twitter where he's getting millions of impressions every month
for October he's also running a $1.5M leaderboard for the top wagerers under his Rainbet code, upgraded from the $1M leaderboard he ran the previous month
on top of that he offers wagering rewards through his website with up to $200k in possible rewards for someone who reaches $50M wagered under his code
now let's talk about the important numbers
$420k in daily fills comes out to around $12.6M every 30 days or over $150M worth of fills per year
but it's very important not to look at that number as Mitch actually earning $150M straight to his bank
these are fills that he's gambling with
and as a lot of people have already pointed out Mitch gambles way more aggressively than he probably needs to and is a pretty massive degen himself
so a lot of that balance can simply be lost back to the casino
then combine that with the insane amount he gives away
if he only realizes somewhere around 30-40% after gambling and giveaways, the actual take-home looks very different
still obviously an insane amount of money
now let's look at what his players are actually doing
for September Mitch had a $1M leaderboard and the wager on it is weighted
his website says all wagers are adjusted to a standardized 98% RTP
his #1 player alone had around $104M in weighted wager
at a 98% RTP that's roughly $2.08M in expected GGR for Rainbet from just that one player
of course the actual result can be drastically different depending on whether that player actually won or lost
his top 5 players combined had over $210M in weighted wager
and even the #100 player on his leaderboard had over $460k wagered
so just from the leaderboard alone you can see how much high-value action Mitch is bringing under his code
and when you combine that with how much of his fills he gambles back himself and how much he's constantly giving away, you start to understand how a $420k daily fill can make sense
now let's look at Rainbet
they're currently ranked #4 among the casinos we track by deposit volume with almost $296M in deposits over the last 30 days
and with Mitch's deal revealed Rainbet now has 2 of the biggest streamer deals in gambling
Mitch at $420k per day and Trainwrecks who has publicly said his deal is worth around $50M a month
at first glance I completely understand why people see $420k every single day and immediately question whether the deal is actually real
that's a ridiculous number
but multiple reputable streamers have already vouched for Mitch and said the deal is 100% real and raw
and huge props to Mitch for actually being this transparent about it and showing people exactly what he's getting
once you look past the $12.6M monthly headline and start looking at the wager he's bringing in, the whales under his code, how much he gambles himself and how much of the money goes straight back into giveaways, the deal starts looking very different
still an insane amount of money either way
but based on these numbers do you think Rainbet is actually getting good value from the deal?
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I just made $100K in 1 minute…
I deposited $20k to try this Limbo strategy I’ve been seeing everywhere and somehow it went insane
the strategy is pretty simple
you chase 9x with big bets and every time you win you double the bet amount twice before going back to the original amount
unless you hit again…
then you double it again
I was down to my last $1K bet and somehow ran it all the way up to $100K right after
I even withdrew the full amount in the video
now this would be great if any of it was real
the entire video was fake
I made it to show how easy it is for someone to larp as a high roller on gambling twitter and make huge bets, wins and even withdrawals look almost identical to the real thing
and there’s actually a reason people do this
these clips can go viral and farm millions of impressions which makes the person look like a real whale
from there they can use that image to get debt from people who think they’re genuinely betting these amounts or ask creators/casinos for money upfront to bring them under their code
so next time you see someone randomly doing insane bets don’t automatically assume they’re some massive high roller
the easiest thing to look for is whether they publicly share their casino username or actual bet slips that can be verified directly on the casino
a good example is @Jelitics who became known for these kinds of huge bets, especially on sports
the difference is he always shared his username and bet slips so it was pretty easy to verify that the bets were actually real
we also track high rollers ourselves on FairGambling where you can verify their casino usernames and activity
for example here’s one of Jelitics’ profile: fairgambling.com/players/gem…
if someone is constantly posting huge bets but never gives you anything that can actually be verified I would be very skeptical
and this isn’t limited to one game either
the same type of fakery can appear across originals, slots and other casino games
from the video alone it can look basically identical to a real session
so next time you see some random account casually doing $10k, $50k or $100k bets think twice before assuming the money on screen is actually real































