Apple Tree
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Real talk, why is it always a Levantine sticking their nose in discourse regarding the Maghreb? Who the hell invited you?
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Imagine warning about the dangers of arbitrary, constructed nationalist borders and identities, only to use that very point to argue for the creation of a country and identity that are themselves, arbitrary nationalist constructions. The call is coming from inside the house.
If the British had split northern and southern iraq into two separate states, the inhabitants would believe they could never unite today. Theyd believe they are separate ethnicities rooted in the Assyrians vs Babylonians and that they were always destined to be separate nations.
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The fact these people think God would "punish" you for embracing your actual origin instead of warped nationalism says a lot. If they believe identifying as anything but Arab is sinful, they've turned Arabness into a religion. Judge me by my enemies.
المصريين قالوا نحن نمثل العرب، فأعزهم الله وقدموا آداء مشرف وعندما تعرضوا للظلم شعرنا بالحزن.
بعض المغاربة قالوا نحن أمازيغ ولا نمثل العرب فأذلهم الله، وظهروا بمستوى هش وخسروا:
﴿فَمَا بَكَتْ عَلَيْهِمُ السَّمَاءُ وَالْأَرْضُ وَمَا كَانُوا مُنظَرِينَ﴾
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By their twisted logic, what does that say about Egypt, which got eliminated before Morocco? Or Saudi Arabia, which lost to Spain? Were they not "Arab" enough? If Arabness is tied to success, why didn't they win? None of it makes any sense
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This person also brushed off an authentic hadith regarding the dangers of forging a false lineage, what does that say about them? Remember these people
كلامك لا علاقة له في شي ..
فهذه الدول اعضاء بجامعة الدول العربية واللغة العربية لغة رسمية في دولتهم ..
فلماذا لا ينسحبون من جامعة الدول العربية ويلغون استعمال اللغة العربية في بلادهم طالما يرون ان لا علاقة لهم بالعرب؟
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Your definition of Arab blatantly ignores how it was historically used as a strict term related to lineage and tribe. Latino was a term specifically coined to describe Latin speaking S. Americans, Arab was not. It's more closer to calling a Mexican a "Spainard" than anything else
Don't you Pahlavists think the Arabs raped your Persian ancestors into being brown or something? What is this projection
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I mean as a Pan Arab surely you can agree this whole confusion is self inflicted, no? Your ideology seeked to emphasize an identity that was (to most people) not from Egypt, and so people viewed you as foreigners to your own country. What did you think was gonna happen?
Then comes a random white man from Florida who doesn't know who is his grandfather and tells you "modern egyptians aren't the descendants of the ancient egyptians"
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Arab support for Morocco is transactional as it comes. Morocco is embraced as Arab when their achievements look good for the Arab identity, yet when a Moroccan does something bad, many of the same people suddenly call them African. It's simply more dignified to play for yourself
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When I’m about to check where the person who posted this is from, expecting SEA or Argentina, and it turns out to be my own obscure shithole:
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1. I don't deny the existence of "Black" groups in ancient North Africa, my issue was categorizing non-black North Africans as descendants of "invaders"
1. Greeks like Herodotus recorded Aethiopians in Libya, but distinguished them from other African nations such as the Libyans.
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Regarding this part: "This is from the general history of africa books volume 2. This piece of history tell the genesis of berbers as the title says. It also mentions that there were africans living in north africa for a long time "ethiopian" meaning black."
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