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Had a very optimistic discussion with a math professor friend about the role of AI in research. His take:
1) Having a fast way to disprove conjectures is already very useful and will save mathematicians lots of time.
2) Humans are very good at moving to higher levels of abstraction and will likely integrate AI proofs as a new abstract level that they operate over.
3) Out of necessity, math has operated on claims that can be explained by/to humans but surely there is an even bigger swath of math that cannot be explained to humans but is useful for other human goals. Having AI that can understand and verify those components and turn them into tools for human use could be revolutionary.
The less optimistic discussion was over whether the games that humans set up for ourselves to stay motivated (challenge problems, medals/awards, etc) will be maxxed out by AI in a way that is ultimately detrimental.
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This guy has no understanding of who research mathematicians are, not even an understanding of what the stereotypes are, and you can easily tell he’s lumped them into a resented group of “ivory tower” intellectuals that consists of everyone smarter than him.
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I am a mathematician but I avoided commenting on this because the problems are (far) outside my domain. Even if I sat down to read the technical details (which I have not), it would be hard to appreciate the context of prior work, etc. But I've gotten enough sense of things through colleagues to be confident about some aspects.
First of all, all the mathematics is fundamentally correct.
How impressive are the results? There is a spectrum of reactions (as with everything), but the consensus seems to be all the results could realistically land (by prior standards) in the very highest tier of publications, e.g., Inventiones for the math papers and "Best Paper Award" at STOC for the TCS papers.
What does this mean practically? Prior to 2026, a Ph.D. student whose only result was one of these 10 would likely land an interview for a tenure line job at a strong university. For some of the results, you could probably replace "tenure line" with "tenured". When Astra comes out, it will clearly be very disruptive to the existing system. I think it's good that the community has the time to react and prepare. Personally I think we should totally overhaul hiring and publishing practices.
Are the results "Fields Medal Level"? I have not heard a mathematician answer Yes to this, and the quoted reason is invariably that the solutions are very clever and beautiful but not "deep". This is consistent with what I can see from a cursory glance.
However, the same criticisms could be levied at certain human generated works which have won major prizes. Ultimately, comparing results is very subjective and also somewhat political, and I absolutely think that if a human had one of these results, and also the right influential senior advocate, then that advocate could make a strong case for the work to win major prizes. The fact is that most mathematicians, including prize committees, don't have the breadth or time to evaluate all the top results, so they rely on proxies for importance like: Is the problem longstanding? Is it famous? Was there a large community of people actively trying to solve it? For e.g. #3 (existence of non-sofic groups), the answer to each of these questions is undoubtedly Yes. I've always felt that people should pay less attention to these proxies and focus more on the actual mathematics; glad to see that is happening with the AI solutions, but the same standards should then also be applied everywhere.
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No opinion on math PhD but I’d still strongly recommend math major.
Most of us never reason. A situation arises, we act intuitively, then get RL’ed. At best we get anxious and bounce between limited hazy alternatives.
But to prove a theorem you have to reason. You don’t know what precision or thinking really is until you have to sit and struggle to prove a theorem that’s new to you.
The crazier the world gets, the more this skill is useful. And the world is about to get very very crazy.
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ৡ𝓠彪ོꦿ࿐ retweeted
the people who were mean to arts-y people were not mathematicians. they were tech bros. and to no one's surprise, the tech bros are now being mean to mathematicians too. mathematicians have infinitely more in common with the arts-y people than they ever did with these guys.
Replying to @tszzl
math-y people were mean to arts-y people when it was arts-y people's time. Now it is math-y people's time.
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