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Manchester United need to be freed of the yoke of the Glazers. That’s obvious. Been saying it since 2005. But how? It’s difficult to force regime change. A few United fans suggesting they’d welcome relegation as it would make the Glazers consider selling up. It might make them more likely to hold on as a PL club worth far more than EFL. A few fans suggesting a boycott of games - but why should loyal fans stop watching their team? And the club could simply get tourists in if a few games missed.
A boycott of the megastore and catering is obvious (and already done by some fans) but that would also hit staff and temporary workers. Chants and banners make a point to the world how reviled the absentee Glazers are. But probably won’t worry the distant Glazers. They can point to money invested in transfers (and spent badly) but it’s not their personal money. It’s money generated by the fans.
United have some very influential fans’ groups, fanzines, forums and pods. Would lobbying the Independent Football Regulator about whether the Glazers are “fit and proper owners” (in old parlance) have any effect? At the very least, there is a strong case for lobbying the IFR and Government about updating legislation to preclude debt-based takeovers (the IFR has an advisory role to Parliament).
It’s certainly a national embarrassment that the most high-profile representative of the national sport has such substantial debt and such deeply unpopular owners associated with it. Sadly, like a stubborn stain, the Glazers will take some shifting. #MUFC
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So here’s where we are at…..
@The__1958 cannot fight this battle against the owners on their own, that’s plain to see.
Unless ALL major supporters groups of MANCHESTER UNITED come together and start singing from the same song sheet then we are totally fucked.
It’s a now or never moment in my opinion. it’s time for every supporters club, fan group and offical trust to work towards a greater good.
Fuck dialogue with the club, it’s pointless and has been for years.
I believe the only way forward is for the FAB and FF to cut the club off with a vote of no confidence. That’s the start. Then…. Let your feet do the talking, however that looks. Any details of protests, be it a walk out, sit in, boycott or whatever the plan may be will be utterly pointless unless everyone supports it.
Thats the sad reality here, time to wake the fuck up or……
Enjoy Ratcliffe and the Glazers for the unforeseeable
It’s up to you
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Husam destroyed the narrative
🚨 THE “RED CARTEL” NARRATIVE IS NONSENSE! 🤡🔴
Man Utd, Arsenal & Liverpool are NOT stopping other clubs from growing! ❌
Their history, success and popularity aren't a conspiracy against anyone else. 🏆
Other clubs CAN grow without blaming the traditional giants!
💬 Is the “Red Cartel” just an excuse? 👀👇🔥 @terryflewers
My latest article examines the legal procedure underpinning the Commission’s decision and Manchester City’s subsequent appeal.
Read the full analysis here: millschody.com/2026/10/05/th…
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OLIVER HOLT: Strip Man City of ALL eight of their Premier League titles and relegate them for their defrauding of Man United and Liverpool's history. English football is broken irretrievably and will never be the same again trib.al/1ywdgWV
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I hate the idea of asterisks or spaces where winners’ names should be. It feels like a desecration of football’s history. But after the guilty verdicts, I don’t see any other way - City should be relegated from the PL and stripped of titles won since 2009 dailymail.com/sport/football…
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⚖️ 𝗘𝘅𝗽𝗹𝗮𝗶𝗻𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝘄𝗵𝘆 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗠𝗮𝗻 𝗖𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗽𝘂𝗻𝗶𝘀𝗵𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁 𝗺𝘂𝘀𝘁 𝗯𝗲 𝘀𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗿𝗲
Here are the arguments that I expect the PL legal team will make for why the Independent Commission must apply the most severe punishments possible.
1) 𝙋𝙤𝙞𝙣𝙩𝙨 𝙙𝙚𝙙𝙪𝙘𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙨 𝙩𝙤 𝙧𝙚𝙡𝙚𝙜𝙖𝙩𝙚
The typical points deduction baseline for a regular PSR breach is 6 points for the breach and a further point for every £5m over the limit. These are then varied for mitigating and aggravating circumstances.
By my calculations, Man City breached PSR by at least £120-140m each year over 2015/16-2017/18. In aggregate, that would mean a baseline of 96 points deducted. But this was not a regular PSR breach either. It was historic, hidden, the platform for all success and future growth and what’s more, they then sought to evade / fight justice for years.
So the points deduction should probably be larger than 96. The simple reality is they must go down.
Anything less would be egregious (when viewed alongside precedent) and subject to not only appeal, but almost certainly Section X arbitration and judidical review on the basis it was a perverse outcome.
2) 𝙃𝙪𝙜𝙚 𝙛𝙞𝙣𝙖𝙣𝙘𝙞𝙖𝙡 𝙞𝙢𝙥𝙡𝙞𝙘𝙖𝙩𝙞𝙤𝙣𝙨, 𝙧𝙚𝙙𝙪𝙘𝙞𝙣𝙜 𝙈𝙖𝙣 𝘾𝙞𝙩𝙮’𝙨 𝙛𝙪𝙩𝙪𝙧𝙚 𝙨𝙥𝙚𝙣𝙙𝙞𝙣𝙜
Given precedent of other fines applied by Commissions, the scale of the offences, and the length of time taken from discovery to sanction (mostly due to Man City’s non-cooperation), Man City can expect the largest ever fine in football history.
I will do a more detailed thread on this soon, but I suspect a fine of up to £100m (justified on the basis of damage to the PL brand) and compensation claims to the 4 clubs of more than £1bn in total.
Normally, fines and compensation claims are not counted when assessing FFP / PSR because to include them would be considered “double punishment”. However, excluding them might be considered unfair in this specific case.
Man City smuggled in more than £800m of equity, disguised as sponsor income. In today’s prices, that would be worth billions. They have built an empire on the cheating and still benefit from it to this day. Their valuable squad (which they can sell to raise funds) exists because of it. It’s why their “net spend” isn’t that high. What’s more, valuable long-term commercial deals only exist because of it too.
The sanctions must also “make good” the damage that Man City cause but they must also mitigate for any undue sporting advantage they have gained. As such, that massive spending power that they gained through cheating must be restricted to compensate. Including the fines or compensation would not achieve this In the PL now that the rules are SCR-based rather than PSR-based. As such, I suspect the Panel will be asked to achieve this by applying a mark-down to their SCR allowance. Uefa may be asked to include the fines and comp claims in any assessment of their Football Earnings (I doubt they’ll comply).
3) 𝙏𝙞𝙩𝙡𝙚 𝙨𝙩𝙧𝙞𝙥𝙥𝙞𝙣𝙜
Every single major player acquisition from the summer of 2011 onwards can be tied to the illicit funds. Directly or indirectly. These players were absolutely critical to their ill-gotten success. It is impossible to argue that they would have won their titles without them. As such, there is a strong argument for why titles should be stripped. It is also a needed outcome for the purposes of deterrent against future cheating by other parties.
And even through they only breaached PSR from 2015/16 onwards (they breached Uefa FFP two years rules earlier), they started getting the benefit of their scheme much earlier than that. Had they not devised it, with the intention to defraud the league, then they likely would not have spent nearly as much as they did on players in Summer 2011 onwards.
So there is an argument that everything they won from 2011/12 onwards is tainted (i.e., all of it). That is the argument I would make. All of it must be stripped.
The counter-argument is that only titles won from the first PSR breach (in 2015/16) should be stripped by suggesting that sporting advantage did not apply until that year. I feel this argument is weaker but this is subjective. The Panel could go either way.
4) 𝙁𝙤𝙧𝙘𝙚𝙙 𝙨𝙖𝙡𝙚 𝙪𝙣𝙙𝙚𝙧 𝙩𝙝𝙧𝙚𝙖𝙩 𝙤𝙛 𝙚𝙭𝙥𝙪𝙡𝙨𝙞𝙤𝙣
The cheating was on a massive scale. But what’s worse is how it was undertaken. It required a hidden criminal conspiracy on an enormous scale. What’s even worse is when it was discovered, the owner and club execs did everything they could to deny justice. They refused to comply with the investigation, dragging it out for years. They supplied false documentation and committed perjury at CAS, as well as having eminent business leaders do the same. They demonstrated a total disregard for the rules and the league’s integrity. They demonstrated a clear belief that they are above any and all rules.
The rule breaches were only discoverable due to an email hack that will likely never be possible again (all malign actors will be more careful now). And they have so much power to falsify records, silence whilstblowers and force individuals to lie. They are an existential threat to the league.
You simply cannot allow individuals like that to remain in a competition if you want it to maintain integrity. They pose too great a threat.
The Panel cannot expel the club directly but it can recommend that the clubs vote to do so. But I suspect no-one will want to destroy the club. That is unfair to many employees and fans. They would rather just excise the ownership instead. As such, the Panel should recommend that the club be expelled if it is not sold to completely unassociated parties within a year, with a sale likely undertaken on a competitive basis and managed by an independent third party (similar to Chelsea’s).
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🚨 MANCHESTER UNITED FANS — COPY, PASTE & EMAIL THE BOARD 🚨
Following David Ornstein’s report today that Manchester City have been found guilty on 114 of the 115 Premier League charges, I believe serious questions now need to be answered regarding Omar Berrada’s previous senior role at Manchester City and Manchester United’s due diligence before appointing him CEO.
If you share these concerns, send the email below to:
📧 [email protected]
SUBJECT: FAO Board of Directors
COPY & PASTE — PLEASE DO NOT ALTER THE EMAIL BELOW 👇
Dear Manchester United Board,
I am writing as a Manchester United supporter to formally call for Omar Berrada to resign from his position as Chief Executive Officer of Manchester United.
My concerns have become even more serious following reports today from journalist David Ornstein that Manchester City have been found guilty of 114 of the 115 Premier League charges brought against them. Given the seriousness of those findings, I believe Manchester United supporters are entitled to greater transparency regarding Berrada’s previous role at Manchester City.
Berrada worked for Manchester City from 2011 until January 2024 and held senior positions within the organisation. His time at the club therefore overlapped with the period covered by the Premier League’s financial allegations and the subsequent investigation.
I want to be absolutely clear that I am not claiming that Berrada personally committed any of the breaches or that his employment at Manchester City establishes personal wrongdoing. However, given the seniority of the positions he held, there are legitimate questions about his responsibilities, knowledge and involvement in matters relating to the club during this period.
Manchester United supporters deserve transparency on:
• What exactly were Berrada’s responsibilities at Manchester City during the period covered by the charges?
• Was he involved in any of the areas relating to the charges, including financial reporting, commercial arrangements, player or manager remuneration?
• What knowledge did he have of the matters that have subsequently been found to constitute breaches?
• What due diligence did Manchester United undertake into his role and responsibilities before appointing him CEO?
• Did Berrada provide Manchester United with a full account of his involvement and responsibilities at Manchester City?
• Has Manchester United reviewed whether his continued position as CEO is appropriate following the reported findings?
This is not simply about Berrada having previously worked for Manchester City. It is about accountability and the standards expected from the person occupying one of the most important positions at Manchester United.
Manchester United has repeatedly spoken about integrity, governance and the importance of the club’s reputation. Supporters should therefore not be expected to accept a lack of transparency when serious questions arise concerning the previous senior employment of the club’s CEO.
If Manchester United is satisfied that Berrada had no involvement in the matters that resulted in the findings against Manchester City, then the club should be prepared to explain, within the limits of confidentiality and legal restrictions, the basis for that position.
However, given the reported findings and Berrada’s seniority at Manchester City, I believe the appropriate course of action is for Omar Berrada to resign as Chief Executive Officer of Manchester United.
Manchester United is bigger than any individual executive. The club’s reputation, its supporters and the principles it claims to represent must come first.
I therefore ask the Manchester United Board to seriously consider his position and provide supporters with a substantive response addressing the questions above, rather than a generic acknowledgement.
Kind regards,
A Manchester United supporter
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I get fans not understanding the offside rule
But how did paid officials look at that for 3 or 4 minutes and not think that t goal should have been disallowed?
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If you don’t know get to know Kobbie Mainoo is the best central midfielder in the Premier League.
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- Signed Zirkzee just because he had a release clause.
- Wanted to sign Delap just because he had a release clause.
- Signed Tielemans over Anderson and Fernandes just because he had a release clause.
People think INEOS are being smart, when in reality they’re just being cheap. Their priority is saving money, not being successful.
It’s insane to me how people still defend them…
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this is… weird?
Tielemans is a playmaker, and United need a ball-winner next to Kobbie.
unless the plan is to play more of a 4-3-3 and have defending being a collective effort?
but then that’s not maximising Bruno?
like I said: weird!
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