Neo Platonist Monist | Deus Sive Natura | Trans Woman | Integral Humanist | Intellectual Love of God as the Highest Virtue | Amateur Scientist

Joined February 2026
Deus exists, Deus is Natura, Spinozism is true
God exists, Jesus is Lord, Catholicism is true
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I reject nothing true nor holy within Christianity. Indeed, I rejoice at the seeds of the Word contained therein.
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Spinoza and Boymoder are my very best friends; God *or* Nature, and it never ends!!!
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I am making this post to announce that I can no longer consider myself Christian for many reasons. They are as follows. I cannot bring myself to believe:
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I don’t know what specifically I believe. I am certainly influenced by Christianity and always will be. The elephant in the room is that this might be seen as motivated by “being trans” and wanting a way out. But this isn’t the case bc I didn’t think of it as a problem.
I am making this post to announce that I can no longer consider myself Christian for many reasons. They are as follows. I cannot bring myself to believe:
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What more defines my belief system is Spinozism, Neoplatonism, Apophatic, Teilhardian, etc. But I have too many heterodox opinions to be a Catholic. Saying otherwise would be pretending. I am sorry to anyone who is upset by this but it’s the truth as I see it.
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This isn't even to mention the fact that this decree and Lumen Gentium cannot be rectified with Unam Sanctam or Cantate Domino or even papal decrees condemning religious indifferentism from 40 years prior.
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The fact that the hierarchy thinks it can bind people to stuff that was yesterday's hersey and that people have mostly gone along with it proves that religion is a human construct. And I enjoy Vatican II!
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What I have said in this thread is intentionally highly summarative of my reasons for apostasy. But I want to say that I think of Christ as the best metaphor among all the human religions for our relation to God, and so I do not reject it as 'completely false.’
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4th: Evolution means that God not only cannot prevent suffering, but His Will requires it. Rather than creation existing in an orderly state and becoming disordered, death and disease were always God's Will. This supports a morally indifferent Cosmic Principle.
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Hell, it's so bad that Unitatis Reintegratio (decree on ecumenism) says that Catholics should visit the worship services of schismatics and heretics, when the code of canon law in effect at the time said this was unlawful.
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Lastly on the contradictions between Vatican II and prior teaching this should be easy to intuit if you've been on Catholic twitter. Vatican II is held up as authoritative and yet it is manifestly heretical.
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Note that this isn't "God ALLOWS evil to bring out good" but "God NEEDS evil to bring out good". Evolution being true pretty much forces us to just conclude that God is good only ontologically (quoad se), and not according to us (quoad nos).
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Also, this would undermine basic Christian anthropology which says that Eve came from Adam. If evolution is true then Adam and Eve were probably just mates from a similar tribe and were probably not intelligent enough to know what they were doing by whatever sin they committed.
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3rd: It cannot be reconciled with the authoritative geneology given in Luke, which traces back to Adam in only 77 generations. If we are being very generous and supposing that 1 generation = 50 years on average, then the creation of humanity would be no more than 7000 years ago.
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1st: Evolution makes the fall meaningless, and thus the redemption of Christ meaningless. Since death did not actually *enter* the world through Adam and Eve's sin (Rom 5:12) in any way, the Christian message of Christ's sacrifice 'atoning' for this Sin becomes simply a metaphor.
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2nd: The creation of Adam and Eve as 'ensoulment' of a previous hominid makes no sense.  According to evolutionary theory the 'parents' of Adam and Eve (already heretical) would have been identical to their children. A sudden infusing of rationality into them is incoherent.
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Another impossible contradiction is the contradiction between Matthew and Luke's geneologies, which both reference David. Matthew traces 27 and Luke traces 42 generations from Jesus to David. This represents a nearly 450 year difference, which makes no sense.
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And thus all things are permutations of His Substance. Read like Spinoza's Ethics, book one, or something, idk. Moving on to evolution, it is actually pretty brutal. Most Caths just ignore the problem, but it is a vicious one. I'll just be simple here.
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Deus Sive Natura is probably too complicated to get into here. But basically, I have no real way to get around this mentally and avoid the condemnation of Dei Filius Canon 1.3. God's Will is infinite and so Nature is coterminous with it, and everything is an Idea of God.
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Also various contradictions that make no sense. This thread is not exhaustive!
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I am making this post to announce that I can no longer consider myself Christian for many reasons. They are as follows. I cannot bring myself to believe:
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The most devastating one I will directly point out is Matthew 21:2-5 and Zec 9:9.  "Matthew" not only MISQUOTES the bible, he changes the narrative of Christ to conform to his own misquotation. I elaborate on this in the SS, but how could a divinely inspired author do this?
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