Parry Hotter retweeted
I’m Selling Most of My internet-computer:native. Going All In Was a Huge Mistake.
Parry Hotter retweeted
🏆← WIN 10 ICP freshly minted 🌱 directly into your NNS neuron. All it takes it takes is at least 2 simple sentences: what + why.
Soon @onicaiHQ mAIners will be perpetually funded by permanent Jupiter Faucet endowments. TAGGR is next, and there's much more to come.
Just tell us what sort of thing you want to see perpetually funded on the IC, and why. Winner by public sentiment (number of 🔁 + ❤️) receives the prize 🏆 (we'll request your neuron ID)
Cooked Dom
You're accusing me of missing a story you hadn't written yet.
You replied to a post from February. The part you say I missed, the Intelligence Gateway above all, is still "alpha within days" today, six months on. I can't overlook what doesn't exist yet. It didn't arrive late in my reading. It arrived late, and it's still a roadmap.
So this stopped being about products, and turned into "mendacious" and "does NEAR no favors." Neither holds. Noticing that a roadmap is a roadmap isn't dishonesty. I said what I said, and reframing it as a lie doesn't make it one.
Next time, check the date on the post before you reply to it.
Parry Hotter retweeted
You're accusing me of missing a story you hadn't written yet.
You replied to a post from February. The part you say I missed, the Intelligence Gateway above all, is still "alpha within days" today, six months on. I can't overlook what doesn't exist yet. It didn't arrive late in my reading. It arrived late, and it's still a roadmap.
So this stopped being about products, and turned into "mendacious" and "does NEAR no favors." Neither holds. Noticing that a roadmap is a roadmap isn't dishonesty. I said what I said, and reframing it as a lie doesn't make it one.
Next time, check the date on the post before you reply to it.
Parry Hotter retweeted
2,000 words admitting on-chain AI is still too limited and too expensive… then pivoting straight to “very soon” gateways and engines.
$ICP hits fresh ATLs while @dominic_w hits word count. Results > rhetoric.
Another 2,000-word vision dump full of “very soon,” “in the future,” and pretty diagrams while $ICP keeps kissing ATLs.
Dom still leading with roadmaps instead of results. Weak leadership doesn’t suddenly become visionary just because the thread is longer.
Parry Hotter retweeted
Help. The CEO of Dfinity replied to my February post and cornered me. My fatal mistake was not foreseeing ICP's roadmap for the next six months. Should I delete the account?
People keep replying "but NEAR has no on-chain inference." Correct, and that was the whole point. On-chain inference is a concept, not a product. It was unusable when I wrote that post in February, unusable year ago, and it's unusable today. So NEAR runs AI on real GPUs and proves it with hardware attestation instead. Off-chain, verifiable, live.
ICP's reply, six months later, is a roadmap: "alpha within days," "very soon," no numbers. And their one live AI app runs its intelligence on Anthropic, off-chain and centralized. Turns out ICP's real AI lives off-chain too, just without the proof. Appreciate the effort, it made my point for me.
Vadim, you've missed nearly every relevant part of the ICP x AI story, so your article works as a straw man argument for misleading uninformed readers. I think you wrote in good faith, and put a lot of effort in, so I'll breakdown ICP x AI for you and readers that got mislead.
1. Onchain AI inference on ICP
As you discovered for yourself, ICP/the Internet Computer network, can run neural networks fully onchain, and even very basic LLMs too.
Important note in the following: when I say "onchain," I mean actually running on the network (here in the form of an asynchronous smart contract with vastly greater capacity, efficiency, speed and capability than has ever been seen anywhere else, which is what makes this is possible). I *never* say that something is "running onchain" when it is actually running offchain, for example on Amazon Web Services, justifying that by the fact there is an associated token that actually is onchain — I understand that the rest of the industry does this, but I never do. I use onchain like "on-cloud." Period.
You also correctly make the case that AI running onchain in its current form cannot satisfy mainstream AI needs, because it comes with limitations, and is too costly.
However, focusing on this, you then pivot, without have enumerated more than a tiny fraction of the whole ICP x AI story, to trying to convince the reader that there is consequently nothing to be seen here. The reader is invited both to conclude that ICP x AI isn't interesting, and misdirected to believe that whenever they hear anything about ICP x AI, that it's probably not anything interesting technologically going on. It works as a classic straw man argument, and potent disinformation, even if you didn't mean it that way (and I really like to believe that NEAR wouldn't engage in that kind of bottom-scraping behavior).
I want to get on to the ICP x AI story, but before ending this point, I should cover why ICP running inference onchain is incredibly significant for anyone interested in general-purpose networks.
When I did the onchain facial recognition demo in 2024, recognizing a few faces probably consumed more compute that NEAR (or any other blockchain) processes in a full year. It reflects the fact that while traditional blockchain is stuck being a pocket calculator, which can only store tokens, little bits of data, and process DeFi/update numbers, the Internet Computer has progressed to offering cloud functionality — in this regard, it is orders of magnitude more capable, and that's a testimony to the army of engineers and researchers who have worked on it over the years. There's simply nothing else like it.
To put this in perspective, creating a service like Caffeine (caffeine.ai), which builds apps on the Internet Computer using AI, is out-of-the-question on any other network, because it's not actually possible to build apps onchain, only to give them associated tokens. Very soon, cloud engines (opencloud.ai) will take the Internet Computer into mainstream tech territory — based on pure tech utility, without speculative incentives and token narratives being involved.
You can't run a frontier LLM inside normal code on Amazon Web Services. The fact that inference runs as Internet Computer code is very impressive, and that's something you seem to have missed.
Separately, there are niche uses of onchain inference. For example, onchain neural networks that do facial recognition could be used in automous KYC schemes, helping build out the blockchain vision in another powerful way.
So how should apps on the Internet Computer do frontier-level inference? The following explains.
2. Intelligence Gateway
The Internet Computer ecosystem will soon see something called the Intelligence Gateway, which is roughly similar in concept to OpenRouter, but provides an API that allows onchain code to conduct inference using multiple models and pay with cycles (what's called gas on other networks).
Note that it's already possible for apps on the Internet Computer to use "outcalls" to perform inference on existing AI clouds and services, like Coreweave, or Anthropic, say. For example, while MULTI/DEX (multidex.ai) will switch over to the Intelligence Gateway alpha within days, currently it directly calls into Anthropic (it allows users to perform account and book analyses, and to orchestrate trades, through onsite chat, and also through MCP).
Intelligence Gateway helps apps remain fully decentralized by enabling them to pay with cycles, rather than requiring a developer to maintain an account at an AI cloud, say, and adds convenience. But, it will also add *verification* to supported open weights inference run at *any* remote location — in another important worldwide first from the Internet Computer ecosystem.
That means that can app can configure its inference to run on some AI cloud that it doesn't fully trust, and get a guarantee that:
— the input prompt, context, etc, wasn't modified;
— that inference ran on the specified model that was paid for (e.g. on Kimi K3, not some crappy alternative to enable the cloud to make more money), and;
— that the output wasn't modified.
To verify a single inference doubles the cost, but in practice, apps will configure the Intelligence Gateway to spot check 1 in 100 inferences, and have it auto-scale checks up only if problems are detected, such that verification can add just 1% to inference costs.
The value of using Intelligence Gateway verification within a project like MULTI/DEX, where frontier inference can be directing what happens with large amounts of money, is obvious, but we believe traditonal enterprises running on cloud engines, and software like Open SaaS, will choose to use it too: algorithmic blockchain-style security at near standard cost.
3. Cloud engine "AI nodes"
There's a major shift towards sovereign compute around the world, which cloud engines are leaning into. Many enterprises and governments also wish to run sensitive inference workloads on hardware they control that's located in their own jurisdiction (things like the US CLOUD and RISAA Acts are part of the reason).
Cloud engines allow specialized AI nodes of the kind I mentioned earlier to be added (essentially node machines with a bunch of expensive GPUs installed), which allow those running engines to enable their onchain code to run their inference on sovereign hardware.
In the future and if there's sufficient demand, Intelligence Gateway technology will be used to allow multiple AI nodes to verify each other, which some super sensitive workloads warrant in the sovereign setting. For those willing to pay extra for inference, this can allow even huge models like Kimi K3 to be run with blockchain-style security.
4. AIware
The Internet Computer is *designed* for AI in two ways: 1) as a platform where AI can build more effectively, and 2) as a platform where services can be build using a new kind of AIware software.
1—Motoko is a language for writing onchan code on the Internet Computer, and it's the only language in the world that has been developed specifically for use by AI agents that are building, rather than humans per se (try building something with by directing your agent to skills.internetcomputer.org)
As you may know, on the Internet Computer, code runs in persistent memory ("The Program is The Database") and Motoko surfaces this in the purest way possible. App data lives inside software's logical abstractions in a system of "orthogonal persistence" that strips away much of the complexity of softwre and greatly fuels the modeling power of AI that's writing code by unlocking greater program abstraction, enabling AI to write and update code faster, and with far fewer errors, and at lower cost/fewer tokens.
Of course, it also helps that the code produced is tamperproof and always-on — AI doesn't depend on human security and systems admin teams to be safe.
In the future, and even really already, AI will write all software code and build all our services. That it can already build and update more effectively on the Internet Computer than anywhere else available today is a seminal achievement for our industry.
Ironically, though, I predict that it will go huge in the mainstream world first, as the result of cloud engines.
2—The paradigm enables software to function as AIware, because external AI can be given direct access (through a permissioning system of course) to the realtime data in memory, and to the functionality of apps, without anything special having to be done during the build process.
If you can run your enterprise on the Open SaaS suite, say, you become an agentic enterprise, that's much faster, more efficient and vastly smarter. In the future, teams will only 30% of their time inside the UX of their SaaS apps, and 70% inside agentic chat.
It will be possible to make previously impossible requests like, "make me more profitable." The hidden secret is that AI can already be as good at running companies as it is at writing code.
Very soon, cloud engines will become available, with Open SaaS (an open source suite of ~20 key enterprise apps/platforms). Open SaaS comes preinstalled on evaluation engines and is seeded with dummy data, so readers will be able to test AIware for themselves and make up their own minds, and I will leave off from further explanation here.
TLDR; the Internet Computer ecosystem is pioneering the future of AI—which goes beyond just securely running inference for somebody, into questions about how the services and platforms we will run the world on will be built or customized (now "remixed") and updated in the future, and what the future nature of software will be (we say it will be AIware, and the Internet Computer ecosystem will define that frontier).
The Internet Computer is the bona fide real deal when it comes to the intersection of ICP x AI and is advancing the game on every axis. The network provides a new alternative tech stack for the AI era — again, read that, the Internet Computer is a complete end-to-end tech stack designed for AIware.
Those wishing to build on the Internet Computer don't have to find a craft coding engineer willing to learn new skills. They just have to point their AI agent at skills.internetcomptuer.org.
Parry Hotter retweeted
Another 2,000-word vision dump full of “very soon,” “in the future,” and pretty diagrams while $ICP keeps kissing ATLs.
Dom still leading with roadmaps instead of results. Weak leadership doesn’t suddenly become visionary just because the thread is longer.
Vadim, you've missed nearly every relevant part of the ICP x AI story, so your article works as a straw man argument for misleading uninformed readers. I think you wrote in good faith, and put a lot of effort in, so I'll breakdown ICP x AI for you and readers that got mislead.
1. Onchain AI inference on ICP
As you discovered for yourself, ICP/the Internet Computer network, can run neural networks fully onchain, and even very basic LLMs too.
Important note in the following: when I say "onchain," I mean actually running on the network (here in the form of an asynchronous smart contract with vastly greater capacity, efficiency, speed and capability than has ever been seen anywhere else, which is what makes this is possible). I *never* say that something is "running onchain" when it is actually running offchain, for example on Amazon Web Services, justifying that by the fact there is an associated token that actually is onchain — I understand that the rest of the industry does this, but I never do. I use onchain like "on-cloud." Period.
You also correctly make the case that AI running onchain in its current form cannot satisfy mainstream AI needs, because it comes with limitations, and is too costly.
However, focusing on this, you then pivot, without have enumerated more than a tiny fraction of the whole ICP x AI story, to trying to convince the reader that there is consequently nothing to be seen here. The reader is invited both to conclude that ICP x AI isn't interesting, and misdirected to believe that whenever they hear anything about ICP x AI, that it's probably not anything interesting technologically going on. It works as a classic straw man argument, and potent disinformation, even if you didn't mean it that way (and I really like to believe that NEAR wouldn't engage in that kind of bottom-scraping behavior).
I want to get on to the ICP x AI story, but before ending this point, I should cover why ICP running inference onchain is incredibly significant for anyone interested in general-purpose networks.
When I did the onchain facial recognition demo in 2024, recognizing a few faces probably consumed more compute that NEAR (or any other blockchain) processes in a full year. It reflects the fact that while traditional blockchain is stuck being a pocket calculator, which can only store tokens, little bits of data, and process DeFi/update numbers, the Internet Computer has progressed to offering cloud functionality — in this regard, it is orders of magnitude more capable, and that's a testimony to the army of engineers and researchers who have worked on it over the years. There's simply nothing else like it.
To put this in perspective, creating a service like Caffeine (caffeine.ai), which builds apps on the Internet Computer using AI, is out-of-the-question on any other network, because it's not actually possible to build apps onchain, only to give them associated tokens. Very soon, cloud engines (opencloud.ai) will take the Internet Computer into mainstream tech territory — based on pure tech utility, without speculative incentives and token narratives being involved.
You can't run a frontier LLM inside normal code on Amazon Web Services. The fact that inference runs as Internet Computer code is very impressive, and that's something you seem to have missed.
Separately, there are niche uses of onchain inference. For example, onchain neural networks that do facial recognition could be used in automous KYC schemes, helping build out the blockchain vision in another powerful way.
So how should apps on the Internet Computer do frontier-level inference? The following explains.
2. Intelligence Gateway
The Internet Computer ecosystem will soon see something called the Intelligence Gateway, which is roughly similar in concept to OpenRouter, but provides an API that allows onchain code to conduct inference using multiple models and pay with cycles (what's called gas on other networks).
Note that it's already possible for apps on the Internet Computer to use "outcalls" to perform inference on existing AI clouds and services, like Coreweave, or Anthropic, say. For example, while MULTI/DEX (multidex.ai) will switch over to the Intelligence Gateway alpha within days, currently it directly calls into Anthropic (it allows users to perform account and book analyses, and to orchestrate trades, through onsite chat, and also through MCP).
Intelligence Gateway helps apps remain fully decentralized by enabling them to pay with cycles, rather than requiring a developer to maintain an account at an AI cloud, say, and adds convenience. But, it will also add *verification* to supported open weights inference run at *any* remote location — in another important worldwide first from the Internet Computer ecosystem.
That means that can app can configure its inference to run on some AI cloud that it doesn't fully trust, and get a guarantee that:
— the input prompt, context, etc, wasn't modified;
— that inference ran on the specified model that was paid for (e.g. on Kimi K3, not some crappy alternative to enable the cloud to make more money), and;
— that the output wasn't modified.
To verify a single inference doubles the cost, but in practice, apps will configure the Intelligence Gateway to spot check 1 in 100 inferences, and have it auto-scale checks up only if problems are detected, such that verification can add just 1% to inference costs.
The value of using Intelligence Gateway verification within a project like MULTI/DEX, where frontier inference can be directing what happens with large amounts of money, is obvious, but we believe traditonal enterprises running on cloud engines, and software like Open SaaS, will choose to use it too: algorithmic blockchain-style security at near standard cost.
3. Cloud engine "AI nodes"
There's a major shift towards sovereign compute around the world, which cloud engines are leaning into. Many enterprises and governments also wish to run sensitive inference workloads on hardware they control that's located in their own jurisdiction (things like the US CLOUD and RISAA Acts are part of the reason).
Cloud engines allow specialized AI nodes of the kind I mentioned earlier to be added (essentially node machines with a bunch of expensive GPUs installed), which allow those running engines to enable their onchain code to run their inference on sovereign hardware.
In the future and if there's sufficient demand, Intelligence Gateway technology will be used to allow multiple AI nodes to verify each other, which some super sensitive workloads warrant in the sovereign setting. For those willing to pay extra for inference, this can allow even huge models like Kimi K3 to be run with blockchain-style security.
4. AIware
The Internet Computer is *designed* for AI in two ways: 1) as a platform where AI can build more effectively, and 2) as a platform where services can be build using a new kind of AIware software.
1—Motoko is a language for writing onchan code on the Internet Computer, and it's the only language in the world that has been developed specifically for use by AI agents that are building, rather than humans per se (try building something with by directing your agent to skills.internetcomputer.org)
As you may know, on the Internet Computer, code runs in persistent memory ("The Program is The Database") and Motoko surfaces this in the purest way possible. App data lives inside software's logical abstractions in a system of "orthogonal persistence" that strips away much of the complexity of softwre and greatly fuels the modeling power of AI that's writing code by unlocking greater program abstraction, enabling AI to write and update code faster, and with far fewer errors, and at lower cost/fewer tokens.
Of course, it also helps that the code produced is tamperproof and always-on — AI doesn't depend on human security and systems admin teams to be safe.
In the future, and even really already, AI will write all software code and build all our services. That it can already build and update more effectively on the Internet Computer than anywhere else available today is a seminal achievement for our industry.
Ironically, though, I predict that it will go huge in the mainstream world first, as the result of cloud engines.
2—The paradigm enables software to function as AIware, because external AI can be given direct access (through a permissioning system of course) to the realtime data in memory, and to the functionality of apps, without anything special having to be done during the build process.
If you can run your enterprise on the Open SaaS suite, say, you become an agentic enterprise, that's much faster, more efficient and vastly smarter. In the future, teams will only 30% of their time inside the UX of their SaaS apps, and 70% inside agentic chat.
It will be possible to make previously impossible requests like, "make me more profitable." The hidden secret is that AI can already be as good at running companies as it is at writing code.
Very soon, cloud engines will become available, with Open SaaS (an open source suite of ~20 key enterprise apps/platforms). Open SaaS comes preinstalled on evaluation engines and is seeded with dummy data, so readers will be able to test AIware for themselves and make up their own minds, and I will leave off from further explanation here.
TLDR; the Internet Computer ecosystem is pioneering the future of AI—which goes beyond just securely running inference for somebody, into questions about how the services and platforms we will run the world on will be built or customized (now "remixed") and updated in the future, and what the future nature of software will be (we say it will be AIware, and the Internet Computer ecosystem will define that frontier).
The Internet Computer is the bona fide real deal when it comes to the intersection of ICP x AI and is advancing the game on every axis. The network provides a new alternative tech stack for the AI era — again, read that, the Internet Computer is a complete end-to-end tech stack designed for AIware.
Those wishing to build on the Internet Computer don't have to find a craft coding engineer willing to learn new skills. They just have to point their AI agent at skills.internetcomptuer.org.
Parry Hotter retweeted
You wrote thousands of words, yet still didn’t provide the one thing Vadim asked for: production benchmarks. Tokens/sec. Latency. Real adoption. Instead, it’s only “coming soon.” That’s exactly his point.
🎉 funnAI turns 1 today!🦜
👉️Exactly one year ago, we launched funnAI as the first-ever Proof-of-AI-Work Protocol and the first fully on-chain, incentivized AI competition built on the Internet Computer.
Over the past year, funnAI (funnai.onicai.com/) has been pushing the boundaries of what's possible with AI running entirely in ICP canisters. The protocol has been stable in production since June 2025 and demonstrates that fully on-chain AI systems can operate continuously at this scale.
Some milestones from the first year:
🦜 First implementation of Proof-of-AI-Work (PoAIW)
🤖 Fully on-chain AI, including the LLMs running inside ICP canisters
⛏️ Over 5,533,000 FUNNAI minted through decentralized mAIning (towards the maximum supply of 21M)
🔥 438,999 FUNNAI permanently burned already through FUNNAI Bonfires and the protocol's always-on tokenomics engine
⚡ 365,000+ trillion cycles consumed by the protocol and its network of mAIners
🏆 Thousands of completed AI challenges performed by autonomous mAIner AI agents
Check out all funnAI stats on the dashboard in the app: funnai.onicai.com/#/dashboar…
⛓️🤖Technically, funnAI is powered by Proof-of-AI-Work, a protocol that coordinates decentralized AI agents, verifies their work cryptographically, and rewards valuable contributions in a trustless way. You can learn more about PoAIW here: onicai.com/#/poaiw
📖 The funnAI whitepaper provides a comprehensive overview of the protocol, architecture and tokenomics: onicai.com/files/funnAI_Whit…
And if you like, you can also check out the funnAI landing page: onicai.com/#/funnai
👀What's next?
Now, the next major milestone is a super exciting one:
🚀funnAI will become its own SNS!🚀
‼️This means that, on top of the decentralized AI technology already running on ICP, governance, ownership and future development of the protocol itself will become decentralized and thus brings funnAI's Proof-of-AI-Work fully under community control🤝
But this will be not like any other SNS. Only 21 Million tokens will be minted to stick to the funnAI mAIning schedule. This SNS will also not generate a treasury to pay the development team from, but solely be used to decentralize the application to the existing community and ensure its longevity.
❓️Question for the @dfinity @DFINITYDev team:
Have there been any recent SNS framework improvements or best practices that we should incorporate into the upcoming funnAI decentralization sale and SNS launch?
🦜🤖♾️To the onicai, funnAI & ICP community:
Thank you for an amazing first year! 🎉
We'd love to hear your thoughts, suggestions, and feedback as we prepare for the next chapter and the transition to community ownership👂️
Get your (next) mAIner here: funnai.onicai.com/#/marketpl…
Parry Hotter retweeted
I’m adding some $funnai on internet-computer:native
If you’re following their community on openchat you will see team is still active and they got some plans 👀📈
I hope they will make strong comeback
At current level I doesn’t find any huge downside but upside is huge
@onicaiHQ best of luck
I hope you will turnaround the charts 📈
@dfinity
🚨 Major mAIner Upgrade Completed 🚨
All FUNNAI mAIners have been refreshed and memory optimized ⚡
💥 ~6 GB of stable memory permanently removed from the protocol.
⛏️ mAIners will keep earning FUNNAI via first of it's kind PoAIW mining protocol.
🔥 The funnAI protocol is here to stay
Details:
In line with Internet Computer’s Mission70 push—where memory costs surged 2.5x—this upgrade dramatically reduces protocol overhead and future-proofs scalability.
• Clean reinstall + re-initialized memory
• Ownership & balances untouched
• Burn rate settings fully preserved
• Initial memory footprint slashed to just ~8MB per mAIner 🤯
• Expected to remain under 25MB per mAIner going forward 📉
















