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Linking this tweet series on loot of our temples by politicians and Secular governments, with the current one. xitter.cf/amitsurg/status/808164…
Anyone who has studied this subject will not be surprised at all. Politicians, bureaucrats have captured our temples and are looting them. xitter.cf/Kal_Chiron/status/8081…
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BREAKING: Switzerland suspends funding to Doctors Without Borders after it failed to report that its staff exploited refugee women and girls for sex—in exchange for aid, jobs and money. Previously, 🇨🇭 called MSF “a source of best practice and inspiration.” swissinfo.ch/eng/internation…
1. There is really no justification for it. The huge margins offered by drug manufacturers are due to market distortion. Manufacturers view the purchasers and prescribers, ie hospital and doctor, as their clients, not the patient on whom the medicine is used.
2. Controlling the margins on these drugs won’t affect research as claimed by manufacturers, since they are still free to fix their sale price to distributors. Only the subsequent exorbitant margin gets capped. However, corporate hospitals will certainly take a big hit and by and large their overall profit margins are not good enough to fully absorb this impact.
3. Bed charges, even in highest category of rooms, are well below the infra and running cost per bed of the hospital. It is a fact that hospitals cover the cost of stay and treatment primarily from high margins on pharmacy.
4. If margins from pharmacy and consumables too are cut off, you may find that hospitals substantially increase other charges to offset this substantial loss of income. We have seen this happen in coronary angioplasty - when margins on stents was capped, the procedure charges were increased to keep package cost the same.
5. Unfortunately in India, as of now services are not valued as much as products. Most patients are willing to pay 1 lakh for an implant, stent or medicine a lot more readily than giving the treating doctor 50k for his expertise. Additionally in oncology, the fear of cancer is a big incentive for people to spend any amount for medicines in the hope of cure. It is a sad reality that manufacturers, hospitals and doctors do exploit this situation. It is not a grand conspiracy, each of them is in it for their own reasons.
6. Even though I’m not a fan of overarching govt controls, in some situations such as this, the govt does need to step in and correct market distortions. I reiterate that for antibiotics too, rampant misuse due to high margins is causing scarily high rates of antibiotic resistance. The margins on all antibiotics must be made so low that there should be no incentive at all for misuse.
7. My opinion is that it is better for medical professionals to charge directly for services rendered, than rely on such indirect and somewhat unsavoury sources of income. People too should also get used to paying their treating doctors well for good, clean and timely services and treatment.
🚨 SUPREME COURT | “Can you show any justification for this loot?”
A cancer patient’s husband, a medical distributor, told the Supreme Court that an injection available to him at a dealer price of ₹11,000 was allegedly priced at ₹1.30 lakh by a reputed hospital, which refused to administer the injection he offered.
“Why this difference? Where does the money go?” Justice Sandeep Mehta asks the Centre.
And this.
The problem restricting innovation and trials is not Indian Pharmas not wanting to put in money or the court freezing margins. It is the health ministry’s dysfunctional approval process for trials, and the peculiar market situation in India wrt pharma. 🧵
1. Ethics committee approval is mandatory for trials. But try forming an ethics committee if you’re a healthcare institution. It may take years to get permissions if you get it at all. Of course you can go to a committee that already exists. But the time taken, number of queries raised and conditions put are sufficient to deter the bravest of researchers even if it just a simple observational study with zero patient risk. Hospitals and pharma companies are still waiting for approvals of trials proposed over two years back.
2. The business model of Indian pharma is low cost production and high MRP to pass on maximum margins to sellers. To capture market space, Indian pharma companies keep printing higher and higher MRPs. No international pharma giant gives the kind of obscene margins Indian companies do, they focus on their brand image and pitch product quality instead.
3. For example: Before it’s MRP was restricted under DPCO, the same brand of a higher generation antibiotic (meropenem) made by a good Indian pharma company was sold with printed MRPs ranging from 600 to 3500 depending on what the buyer wanted, the supply price was the same: 300. The hospital pharmacy could then supply it to a rich delux class patient at 3500 and less affording general ward patient at 600. Something akin to bottled water being sold for MRP of 20 in stores and MRP of 60 to 100 at airports and cinema halls due to different captive audience at the point of sale.
4. The problem therefore is not Indian companies being restricted by price control hence not getting funds for research. They can very well readjust their pricing to make provision for research, this remains unrestricted. Their selling price to distributors matters to them, not the printed MRP decided by the buyer.
5. In fact, Indian pharma companies are putting in substantial efforts at research and have brought out some original research molecules that are doing well. It’s a late but good start. Even low cost drug giants like Mankind now have hundreds of scientists engaged in research. India also has not less than 128 startups doing dedicated research into new drugs. Over 1000 new drugs by Indian companies are currently in various stages of trials. So it is a myth that Indian companies are not doing research. The problem is not them. It’s the health ministry.
6. These trials will remain stuck if there is no one to give approvals in the first place. Look at the sad condition of the National Medical Commission. For over two years, all seats on NMC panels were lying vacant and the entire organisation was virtually defunct. Some but all vacancies have still not been filled after SC pulled them up for it. This is the body responsible for medical research and ethics in India and even today, most of the posts at the autonomous board for medical ethics and registration are lying vacant. UG and PG Medical education boards too are lying vacant. Is it not the responsibility of the health ministry to at least have the NMC functional at all times?
The solution to the pharma research conundrum is lying in plain sight. Processes that work need functional govt departments. MoHFW Naddaji really needs to get his act together and pull up his socks and his subordinates to get things going.
The problem restricting innovation and trials is not Indian Pharmas not wanting to put in money or the court freezing margins. It is the health ministry’s dysfunctional approval process for trials, and the peculiar market situation in India wrt pharma. 🧵
1. Ethics committee approval is mandatory for trials. But try forming an ethics committee if you’re a healthcare institution. It may take years to get permissions if you get it at all. Of course you can go to a committee that already exists. But the time taken, number of queries raised and conditions put are sufficient to deter the bravest of researchers even if it just a simple observational study with zero patient risk. Hospitals and pharma companies are still waiting for approvals of trials proposed over two years back.
2. The business model of Indian pharma is low cost production and high MRP to pass on maximum margins to sellers. To capture market space, Indian pharma companies keep printing higher and higher MRPs. No international pharma giant gives the kind of obscene margins Indian companies do, they focus on their brand image and pitch product quality instead.
3. For example: Before it’s MRP was restricted under DPCO, the same brand of a higher generation antibiotic (meropenem) made by a good Indian pharma company was sold with printed MRPs ranging from 600 to 3500 depending on what the buyer wanted, the supply price was the same: 300. The hospital pharmacy could then supply it to a rich delux class patient at 3500 and less affording general ward patient at 600. Something akin to bottled water being sold for MRP of 20 in stores and MRP of 60 to 100 at airports and cinema halls due to different captive audience at the point of sale.
4. The problem therefore is not Indian companies being restricted by price control hence not getting funds for research. They can very well readjust their pricing to make provision for research, this remains unrestricted. Their selling price to distributors matters to them, not the printed MRP decided by the buyer.
5. In fact, Indian pharma companies are putting in substantial efforts at research and have brought out some original research molecules that are doing well. It’s a late but good start. Even low cost drug giants like Mankind now have hundreds of scientists engaged in research. India also has not less than 128 startups doing dedicated research into new drugs. Over 1000 new drugs by Indian companies are currently in various stages of trials. So it is a myth that Indian companies are not doing research. The problem is not them. It’s the health ministry.
6. These trials will remain stuck if there is no one to give approvals in the first place. Look at the sad condition of the National Medical Commission. For over two years, all seats on NMC panels were lying vacant and the entire organisation was virtually defunct. Some but all vacancies have still not been filled after SC pulled them up for it. This is the body responsible for medical research and ethics in India and even today, most of the posts at the autonomous board for medical ethics and registration are lying vacant. UG and PG Medical education boards too are lying vacant. Is it not the responsibility of the health ministry to at least have the NMC functional at all times?
The solution to the pharma research conundrum is lying in plain sight. Processes that work need functional govt departments. MoHFW Naddaji really needs to get his act together and pull up his socks and his subordinates to get things going.
Government of India is arguing that innovation is important in biotech and drug development - and Supreme Court of India is pontificating against it, forcing government to include drugs in price control orders!
The Court inserts itself into policymaking randomly, and plays to the gallery.
Then we ask, why don’t Indian pharma players invest in R&D? Here is your answer.
Any random entity (this time it is the Supreme Court) can wake up, and tell you what to do! They can create havoc in an industry.
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#BreakingNews | Wildlife tragedy in Madhya Pradesh: A cheetah cub dies, with five pellets reportedly recovered from its body.
The discovery raises questions about the circumstances of the death and the safety of wildlife in the region.@Elizasherine @Srish__T with details
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Truth bombs 👇
Most patients don't mind paying for pharmacy and labs/imaging but are hesitant to pay for nursing and medical services which they feel is a "noble job"
It's worse for physician branches("We have come just to show reports") compared to surgical ones.
1. There is really no justification for it. The huge margins offered by drug manufacturers are due to market distortion. Manufacturers view the purchasers and prescribers, ie hospital and doctor, as their clients, not the patient on whom the medicine is used.
2. Controlling the margins on these drugs won’t affect research as claimed by manufacturers, since they are still free to fix their sale price to distributors. Only the subsequent exorbitant margin gets capped. However, corporate hospitals will certainly take a big hit and by and large their overall profit margins are not good enough to fully absorb this impact.
3. Bed charges, even in highest category of rooms, are well below the infra and running cost per bed of the hospital. It is a fact that hospitals cover the cost of stay and treatment primarily from high margins on pharmacy.
4. If margins from pharmacy and consumables too are cut off, you may find that hospitals substantially increase other charges to offset this substantial loss of income. We have seen this happen in coronary angioplasty - when margins on stents was capped, the procedure charges were increased to keep package cost the same.
5. Unfortunately in India, as of now services are not valued as much as products. Most patients are willing to pay 1 lakh for an implant, stent or medicine a lot more readily than giving the treating doctor 50k for his expertise. Additionally in oncology, the fear of cancer is a big incentive for people to spend any amount for medicines in the hope of cure. It is a sad reality that manufacturers, hospitals and doctors do exploit this situation. It is not a grand conspiracy, each of them is in it for their own reasons.
6. Even though I’m not a fan of overarching govt controls, in some situations such as this, the govt does need to step in and correct market distortions. I reiterate that for antibiotics too, rampant misuse due to high margins is causing scarily high rates of antibiotic resistance. The margins on all antibiotics must be made so low that there should be no incentive at all for misuse.
7. My opinion is that it is better for medical professionals to charge directly for services rendered, than rely on such indirect and somewhat unsavoury sources of income. People too should also get used to paying their treating doctors well for good, clean and timely services and treatment.
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💯 take.
1. There is really no justification for it. The huge margins offered by drug manufacturers are due to market distortion. Manufacturers view the purchasers and prescribers, ie hospital and doctor, as their clients, not the patient on whom the medicine is used.
2. Controlling the margins on these drugs won’t affect research as claimed by manufacturers, since they are still free to fix their sale price to distributors. Only the subsequent exorbitant margin gets capped. However, corporate hospitals will certainly take a big hit and by and large their overall profit margins are not good enough to fully absorb this impact.
3. Bed charges, even in highest category of rooms, are well below the infra and running cost per bed of the hospital. It is a fact that hospitals cover the cost of stay and treatment primarily from high margins on pharmacy.
4. If margins from pharmacy and consumables too are cut off, you may find that hospitals substantially increase other charges to offset this substantial loss of income. We have seen this happen in coronary angioplasty - when margins on stents was capped, the procedure charges were increased to keep package cost the same.
5. Unfortunately in India, as of now services are not valued as much as products. Most patients are willing to pay 1 lakh for an implant, stent or medicine a lot more readily than giving the treating doctor 50k for his expertise. Additionally in oncology, the fear of cancer is a big incentive for people to spend any amount for medicines in the hope of cure. It is a sad reality that manufacturers, hospitals and doctors do exploit this situation. It is not a grand conspiracy, each of them is in it for their own reasons.
6. Even though I’m not a fan of overarching govt controls, in some situations such as this, the govt does need to step in and correct market distortions. I reiterate that for antibiotics too, rampant misuse due to high margins is causing scarily high rates of antibiotic resistance. The margins on all antibiotics must be made so low that there should be no incentive at all for misuse.
7. My opinion is that it is better for medical professionals to charge directly for services rendered, than rely on such indirect and somewhat unsavoury sources of income. People too should also get used to paying their treating doctors well for good, clean and timely services and treatment.
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This❤️❤️
1. There is really no justification for it. The huge margins offered by drug manufacturers are due to market distortion. Manufacturers view the purchasers and prescribers, ie hospital and doctor, as their clients, not the patient on whom the medicine is used.
2. Controlling the margins on these drugs won’t affect research as claimed by manufacturers, since they are still free to fix their sale price to distributors. Only the subsequent exorbitant margin gets capped. However, corporate hospitals will certainly take a big hit and by and large their overall profit margins are not good enough to fully absorb this impact.
3. Bed charges, even in highest category of rooms, are well below the infra and running cost per bed of the hospital. It is a fact that hospitals cover the cost of stay and treatment primarily from high margins on pharmacy.
4. If margins from pharmacy and consumables too are cut off, you may find that hospitals substantially increase other charges to offset this substantial loss of income. We have seen this happen in coronary angioplasty - when margins on stents was capped, the procedure charges were increased to keep package cost the same.
5. Unfortunately in India, as of now services are not valued as much as products. Most patients are willing to pay 1 lakh for an implant, stent or medicine a lot more readily than giving the treating doctor 50k for his expertise. Additionally in oncology, the fear of cancer is a big incentive for people to spend any amount for medicines in the hope of cure. It is a sad reality that manufacturers, hospitals and doctors do exploit this situation. It is not a grand conspiracy, each of them is in it for their own reasons.
6. Even though I’m not a fan of overarching govt controls, in some situations such as this, the govt does need to step in and correct market distortions. I reiterate that for antibiotics too, rampant misuse due to high margins is causing scarily high rates of antibiotic resistance. The margins on all antibiotics must be made so low that there should be no incentive at all for misuse.
7. My opinion is that it is better for medical professionals to charge directly for services rendered, than rely on such indirect and somewhat unsavoury sources of income. People too should also get used to paying their treating doctors well for good, clean and timely services and treatment.
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Yes ideal situation is patients paying 5-10x for a doc consultation / procedure. And minimise the conflicts of interests of docs by regulating other prices …
Hard to achieve because people in general is reluctant to give money to service + current distortions is too deep …
1. There is really no justification for it. The huge margins offered by drug manufacturers are due to market distortion. Manufacturers view the purchasers and prescribers, ie hospital and doctor, as their clients, not the patient on whom the medicine is used.
2. Controlling the margins on these drugs won’t affect research as claimed by manufacturers, since they are still free to fix their sale price to distributors. Only the subsequent exorbitant margin gets capped. However, corporate hospitals will certainly take a big hit and by and large their overall profit margins are not good enough to fully absorb this impact.
3. Bed charges, even in highest category of rooms, are well below the infra and running cost per bed of the hospital. It is a fact that hospitals cover the cost of stay and treatment primarily from high margins on pharmacy.
4. If margins from pharmacy and consumables too are cut off, you may find that hospitals substantially increase other charges to offset this substantial loss of income. We have seen this happen in coronary angioplasty - when margins on stents was capped, the procedure charges were increased to keep package cost the same.
5. Unfortunately in India, as of now services are not valued as much as products. Most patients are willing to pay 1 lakh for an implant, stent or medicine a lot more readily than giving the treating doctor 50k for his expertise. Additionally in oncology, the fear of cancer is a big incentive for people to spend any amount for medicines in the hope of cure. It is a sad reality that manufacturers, hospitals and doctors do exploit this situation. It is not a grand conspiracy, each of them is in it for their own reasons.
6. Even though I’m not a fan of overarching govt controls, in some situations such as this, the govt does need to step in and correct market distortions. I reiterate that for antibiotics too, rampant misuse due to high margins is causing scarily high rates of antibiotic resistance. The margins on all antibiotics must be made so low that there should be no incentive at all for misuse.
7. My opinion is that it is better for medical professionals to charge directly for services rendered, than rely on such indirect and somewhat unsavoury sources of income. People too should also get used to paying their treating doctors well for good, clean and timely services and treatment.
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Look what arrived today!
Looking forward to reading in print of @ArunKrishnan_ 's retelling of key moments of the Mahabharat from the perspective of the key players, Mahakshana!
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Cabinet Expansion or Cabinet of Exceptions?
FROM TODAY, J&K CM OMAR ABDULLAH CABINET WILL HAVE NO REPRESENTATION FROM JAMMU.
Four new ministers have been inducted, all from the Kashmir Valley. Meanwhile, Jammu-based minister Satish Sharma has been dropped.
Voters of Jammu being punished for overwhelmingly voting for BJP?
Doesn't the latest expansion deepen the regional imbalance?
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Delhi: Sanjeev Mehra, President of the Khan Market Traders Association, reacting to the INDIA bloc’s proposed rally at Ramlila Maidan on November 1, says, “Our letters are having no impact on the Congress party or Rahul Gandhi, and I do not understand what their objective is. We had appealed to them not to hold protests during the festive season, as this causes significant losses to traders. It seems they are determined to keep the economy, which they once called ‘dead’, in that condition. If we cannot earn during the peak business season, our workers and their families will suffer. Then they will achieve their objective of claiming that unemployment has increased. My question is directed at every political party: are we traders the only ones who must keep suffering? We are always the ones bearing the brunt. Our appeal has been rejected. Yesterday, they posted on Twitter that we should approach the Prime Minister. If the Prime Minister is not listening to you despite all your efforts, why would he listen to traders? This is becoming a pattern. After demanding the resignation of the Chief Election Commissioner, they have now turned their attention to Gyanesh Kumar. Next, they will demand Amit Shah’s resignation, and after that, the Prime Minister’s.”
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Very valid point...
"Go tell Modi" said the Pahalgam terrorists.
Rahul Gandhi says "go tell Modi" to sack Gyanesh Kumar !
"Tell Modi to sack accused no. 4, Gyanesh Kumar and the protests will stop in 30 seconds."
The typical language of a violent blackmailer.
The crux is this: @RahulGandhi resents the Traders, the Middle Class, the Women the Youth and generally the Hindus for repeatedly voting for Modi. Especially in Delhi. Where the has been blanketed out 7-0, three consecutive times.
Hence the demeaning, dismissive and threatening tone - YOU voted for Modi; now "tell" YOUR Modi to do this else I will destroy your business and livelihoods during your most sacred festival.
Incidentally, the Pahalgam terrorists, while identifying Hindus and killing them, also used the same language - "tell Modi".
Police uses water cannons to disperse BJP workers in Chandigarh protesting against Mallikarjun Kharge’s offensive remarks on PM Narendra Modi.
Tune in for the latest updates: youtube.com/live/ji5VjVAbgfY…
#ChandigarhProtests #BJPProtest #MallikarjunKharge #Chandigarh #RepublicWorld
Traveling from HP to Chandigarh, greeted by endless miles of burning parali right from HP-Punjab border to the outskirts of Chandigarh.
All the best, Delhi. “brave Punjab CM” is out to screw you again.
Modi Govt deals another lethal blow against drugs with Operation Trident.
Our agencies launched a barrage of simultaneous crackdowns across 38 locations in Assam, Mizoram and Manipur on 23 October, smashing an international narco-cartel. The operation revealed ₹100 crore worth of hawala transactions, froze 1,424 bank accounts, attached properties worth ₹17.82 crore, seized 500 detonators and ₹12 lakh in cash, and led to the arrest of 18 people.
The network trafficked narcotics across the borders of India, Myanmar and Bangladesh through the Death Triangle Corridor. The offensive attests to India’s Himalayan resolve to realise the mission of eradicating every drug network by 31 December 2029. India will hammer until the last nail is driven into the coffin of drug cartels.
Heartiest congratulations to the anti-narcotics team comprising central agencies, and police forces of the three states.
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Hyderabad: Eggs thrown at Durga Mata procession; Incident triggers protest in Madannapet
@anjalipandey06 & @Journo_Abdul with details.
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China is building a 60,000 MW dam on the Yarlung Tsangpo at Medog. India’s answer, the 11,200 MW Siang Upper Multipurpose Project, was first proposed in 1983 and declared a national project in 2008.
Last year or so, India finally made moves to get the project rolling.
On Friday night, a mob that called itself “Gen Z” set fire to the NHPC office and a police station in Pasighat, looted the homes of two MLAs and injured more than 40 police personnel. Arunachal holds about 40% of India’s hydropower potential. Its installed capacity is 2,115 MW.
Every project of national scale now has to get past veto points, most of it is just stalled out of motivated malice. From survey consent, social impact assessments, environmental clearances, litigation, local politics, and finally the violent street veto.
Really need to think if Democrazy as it is practised in India today has anything remotely useful to offer especially considering economic aspirations via @timesofindia
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Replying to @amitsurg @MoHFW_INDIA
I think people are losing here. Has anyone thought about why any doctor wants to reuse anything when the new devices are available? If you know the answer, you will never support this decision of @MoHFW_INDIA
The safety concern is blown out of proportion, as current sterilization techniques eliminate that concern completely. The single biggest reason why people reuse is the non affordability for the patient.
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I hope the government reconsiders it's directive on Single use devices.
It will make Dialysis unaffordable for the vast majority.
Despite PMNDP, a large number of patients still rely on schemes and reuse of Dialyzers in private dialysis units.
@MoHFW_INDIA @DghsIndia @PMOIndia
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The cost of every dialysis done for patients will increase 3-4 times with dialyser becoming single use. It’s not just a financial disaster for patients who already struggle with significant monthly costs. Many of them may just fall out and suffer catastrophic consequences.
Ayushman Bharat too will take a huge blow. The single most commonly done procedure in private setups under Ayushman Bharat is dialysis and this will suddenly become totally unviable. The volume of dialysis being done at pvt centers under AB will likely come down to zero and hit the total volume of AB itself by as much as 50%.
I don’t know who has advised the govt on this, but it is a massive blunder. @MoHFW_INDIA @JPNadda @narendramodi
































