Replying to @LiberalVictoria
The LNP has little hope of implementing much if indeed the ALP forms opposition in Victoria. I could describe this as 'fact'
Whereas if ON forms 'opposition' - they'll be able to govern far more effectively
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Replying to @VictorianLabor
Could we call this garbage a day late and a dollar short?
Here is what happens if the ALP come 3rd in MLA seat count.
1. They lose the title of 'opposition'. This is likely the biggest hit. They will no longer even receive this description in the media
2. They lose priority in question time in parliament. This is also huge. Their ability to run cheap 'gotchas' gets buried amongst parliamentary procedure.
3. Their leader takes a $100-125k pay cut. Most Victorians would think this appropriate
4. They lose shadow ministry status so numerous ALP MP's would now face substantial pay cuts - as they would not even constitute 'opposition minister for'
5. They face diminished staffing, office and research resources. This is actually quite impactful. The Opposition gets a staffing office of some 17 staff. The 'third party' does not receive this.
After the absolute torture most Victorians have endured the last decade or more, this is the least punishment they should dole out.
Don't just vote ALP last.
Get them down to third.
It is crucial for the future rebuild of Victoria
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The single most important outcome at the Victorian election is not who you put last on your ballot.
It is that the ALP is forced into third place on the total seat count once all votes are counted.
This requires deliberate preference and primary-vote choices that produce “split outcomes” between the Liberals/LNP and One Nation.
The goal is a clear hierarchy in which One Nation finishes second, ahead of Labor.
That structure matters far more than a conventional LNP majority with Labor as the main opposition.
Look at the practical difference.
In seats where the Greens are competitive against Labor (Northcote, Pascoe Vale, Preston, Footscray and similar inner-urban contests), the priority is letting the Greens beat the ALP.
The Greens already hold Richmond, Melbourne and Brunswick with no realistic threat from the LNP or One Nation; those three seats can be left alone.
Giving Labor seats to the Greens reduces the ALP’s overall total without handing the left any new governing power.
Across the rest of the state the aim is to divide seats between the LNP and One Nation so that One Nation ends ahead of Labor.
3 simplified seat scenarios illustrate why this matters:
1. LNP 50, One Nation 10, ALP 25, Greens 3
2. LNP 40, One Nation 14, ALP 30, Greens 4
3. LNP 33, One Nation 23, ALP 22, Greens 10
Many LNP supporters instinctively prefer the first scenario
That preference is a mistake.
It recreates the Campbell Newman situation in Queensland: a large LNP majority immediately under siege from a still-powerful Labor opposition backed by the unions.
The result was Newman’s rapid destruction and another decade of Labor government that most Queenslanders later regretted.
Victoria already carries deeper structural regrets.
An LNP government with One Nation as the official opposition is vastly more workable than one with Labor in that role.
One Nation will not block the LNP’s agenda on the same ideological and industrial grounds that Labor does.
The LNP can deliver far more of its program, and the government will be far more stable.
Therefore, every seat taken from the ALP is the primary objective.
Every seat that moves from the LNP column to One Nation is the secondary objective.
In any seat that is a genuine toss-up between the LNP and One Nation, Liberal-inclined voters serve their own longer-term interests better by giving their primary vote to One Nation.
That single shift helps lock in the seat hierarchy that actually matters: One Nation second, ALP third.
If the objective is durable change rather than a short-lived majority that Labor can quickly reverse, this is the strategic path.
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Replying to @grok @Ausbobsmit
It's over $30M Grok.
Here is a worked data set taken from transparency.gov.au/
Replying to @LiberalVictoria
Hey guys - is @DHughesy running this account? it's pure comedy gold.
Here's one titled 'sure, we screwed the pooch last time, but *trust us*, we're different this time'
aka - you failed on crime then, you'll fail on crime now.
In defence of the Vic ALP, they've made some investments which weren't absolute dumpster fires.
At the low end, we have the cancellation of the Daniel Andrews statue.
OK, sure, @BenCarrollMP still agreed to pay 'friends of the ALP' Meridien Sculpture their $136K
(for not even doing any work mind you, what a ripper!)
But we also have the terminated contract for the Commonwealth Games, for which the ALP wrote off more than half a billion of Vic Taxpayers dollars.
Then Glasgow turned around and reported a $400M benefit from the investment
#getVicALPthird
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"aspirational"
All Victorians should be seeking to relegate the ALP to third place in the upcoming election.
Specifically - what this means is - to ensure they win less seats than One Nation (it appears likely the LNP will win the largest share...apparently Stockholm Syndrome dissipates very slowly down south).
Here is what happens if the ALP come 3rd in MLA seat count.
1. They lose the title of 'opposition'. This is likely the biggest hit. They will no longer even receive this description in the media
2. They lose priority in question time in parliament. This is also huge. Their ability to run cheap 'gotchas' gets buried amongst parliamentary procedure.
3. Their leader takes a $100-125k pay cut. Most Victorians would think this appropriate
4. They lose shadow ministry status so numerous ALP MP's would now face substantial pay cuts - as they would not even constitute 'opposition minister for'
5. They face diminished staffing, office and research resources. This is actually quite impactful. The Opposition gets a staffing office of some 17 staff. The 'third party' does not receive this.
After the absolute torture most Victorians have endured the last decade or more, this is the least punishment they should dole out.
Don't just vote ALP last. Get them down to third. It is crucial for the future rebuild of Victoria
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Episode #27 of 'Turning down the temperature'
This here is the Judas cradle.
A rather primitive tool used during the Middle Ages.
The victim was stripped and lowered, naked or nearly so, onto a tall, sharply pointed wooden or metal pyramid/seat. Ropes or a winch controlled how much body weight rested on the point, which was aimed at the crotch or anus. Weights could be added to the legs to increase the pressure. Death, when it came, was usually from infection, shock, or internal injury after hours or days.
Apropos of nothing ...
given that ALP politicians have literally stolen tens of billions of dollars from the public purse to arm their own allies, almost exclusively AGAINST the national interest, what form of justice should be meted out to them upon their unseating?
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