Andrew Jr Kiryowa

ICYMI: ACP Andrew Mubiru, Uganda Police’s Director of Forensic Services Tries to Downplay Domestic Violence Suffered by Mrs Molly Katanga. On this day, Mr Mubiru said Mrs Katanga’s blood, found allover the room, might have been due to her urinating there! Judge advised him to stop “making outrageous statements” Mr Elison Karuhanga of Kampala Associated Advocates was leading the cross examination of the state’s Star Witness, Mr Andrew Mubiru. Presiding Judge was His Lordship Isaac Muwata. This was before he was indisposed and was replaced by Her Lordship Rosette Comfort Kania Verbatim reporting: 👇🏾 Judge Muwata inquiring into labeling of exhibit XX: (Is it) blood on the floor of the master bedroom? EK to AM: You found blood on the floor of the master bedroom belonging to Molly Katanga? The one (exhibit) you corrected.. AM: Yes, that’s XII, exhibit labeled 2… EK: So, that’s blood on the floor belonging to Molly Katanga? AM: We received a swab, obtained from the floor near the eastern door to the master bedroom EK: And it had blood? AM: Yes EK: And it had Molly Katanga’s blood? AM: It (the blood) had DNA which was attributed to… EK: Molly Katanga? AM: Yes EK: So it’s Molly Katanga’s blood? AM: You can infer EK laughs, as if in disbelief that Mr Mubiru can’t bring himself to say “this was indeed Molly Katanga’s blood”. He then goes ahead with his cross examination: You also have blood on the western wall of the wardrobe of the master bedroom AM: Yes, that’s exhibit labeled A Judge Muwata: A? Blood on where? AM: That is a cutting from the blood swab from the western wall of the wardrobe in the master bedroom near the door leading to the washroom and dressing room. EK: You have another H. AM: Yes EK: And you explain that this is because on the part where the hair was recovered from, there was a lot of blood AM: No. No, no, no. What I explained here is that when we received this item H, this H was within the same packaging as…aaah, it was near… EK: You had told us it was on the side of the wall and that wall had a zone marked H. Are you changing your evidence? AM: That’s not what I said EK: Okay Judge: But where were we? We have exhibits EK: We have 2 exhibits marked H. H and then H, the same mark, the same letter AM: Yes Judge: Was there A, also? AM: Yes Judge: So now…? AM: This was another H labeled specimen 6H2Y23S025-1. EK: So, that’s blood again on the wall of the master bedroom? AM: Yes, this was a swab which was together with another swab called G obtained from part of the wall between the southern master bedroom door and the washroom door. EK: Then you have the next one which is also blood on the door curtain. Am I right? AM: You’re speaking to exhibit labeled 22-1 where we draw a specimen 682Y23S027 EK: Am I right, that’s blood from the door curtain? AM: Swabbing from the door curtain to the balcony of the master bedroom EK: Molly Katanga’s blood? AM still refuses to mention her name and simply says: “this was also attributed to the person in question.” EK: You then have blood on the ceiling, correct? Which is exhibit C1-1 AM: Yes, that’s specimen S228; that is cutting from the blood swab from the concrete ceiling near the lightbulb. EK: The blood on the ceiling was for who? AM: This particular specimen, the DNA was attributed to the person in question. Mr Mubiru still refuses to explicitly name Mrs Katanga as the person whose blood he found on the ceiling. EK insists: No, was to who? (The blood he found) AM finally cracks: it was attributed to Molly Katanga EK: So, Molly Katanga’s blood is on the floor. Correct? AM doesn’t answer EK: You have Molly Katanga’s blood on the floor, correct? AM: I have her DNA on most of these exhibits EK: Do you have her DNA on the blood on the floor? AM: I wasn’t there EK: Do you have a blood swab with Molly’s DNA on the blood on the floor? AM continues to vacillate: Yes, I have a blood swab. It says “cutting from the swab of the concrete ceiling near the lightbulb” EK isn’t having it: Mr Mubiru, do you have her blood on the floor? AM: My Lord, I didn’t put her blood on the floor so what’s the question? EK: I think let’s first go to your duties, yah? AM: Yes EK: According to you, if you look at paragraph 36 of your report, yah? AM: Yes EK: You say what you understand your role in this court to be. Can you tell us what it is? AM: Yes EK reads Mr Mubiru’s own statement in his report: “Your role in this court overrides your obligation to the party to whom you’re engaged. Correct?” AM: Yes EK: You’re here to give this court full and frank answers, correct? AM stutters EK: Are you here to give this court full and frank answers? AM: Yes, my Lord EK: So answer the questions you’re asked without being evasive. Did you find Molly Katanga’s blood on the floor? AM: I found Molly’s DNA on a swab which was recovered from the floor EK: On the wardrobe… AM: I found Molly’s DNA on a swab which was attributed by o having been recovered from the wardrobe. EK: On the curtain… AM: I found Molly Katanga’s DNA on a swab which was recovered from the curtain EK: On the ceiling… AM: I found Molly’s DNA on the swab which was recovered from the (blood) stain on the ceiling EK: In the bathroom… AM: I found DNA which was attributed to Molly on the swab which was recovered from very many swabs on door frames as attributed in the report EK: So, they were all characterized by the police as blood swabs. Correct? AM: Yes, they were characterized as blood swabs. EK: So, they swabbed blood. Does that mean they took blood? AM: I’d imagine so. (Runkyakore translation) EK: You found it (blood) on door frames of all the doors; the bathroom, the master bedroom, the nearby bedroom. AM: My Lord, the DNA is on the swabs and those swabs are attributed to have come from those areas EK: And those are blood swabs AM: They’re blood swabs EK: And they tested positive for blood? AM: Yes, we tested them and they tested positive for blood. EK: And the DNA in that blood belongs to Molly Katanga? Judge Isaac Muwata: Yes? AM answers: Yes EK: Okay. So, it would be fair to say that Molly Katanga was subjected to the worst and most horrendous form of domestic violence in that room on that fateful November morning, correct? AM: My Lord, that is the work of court to determine. Judge Muwata was having none of that. He said to Mr Mubiru: “No….Do you know or not?” AM: My Lord….I don’t know EK: But I said is it fair to make that conclusion? AM: My Lord I’m not in that position to make that judgment. EK: How does blood leave the body? It just gets out? AM: You can urinate it as well. (Courtroom laughs…) EK: Did you find urine? AM: You can bleed, you can urinate… EK: Did you find urine? AM: I was not the one at the scene, so…. A visibly angry Mr Karuhanga asks Mr Mubiru: Can you urinate on the ceiling? AM: My Lord, I don’t know. EK: Can a woman urinate on the ceiling? (More courtroom laughter). Mr Karuhanga seems uninterested in whatever is making the courtroom laugh. He seems to be getting rather angry at the answers he’s getting AM: My Lord, the last time I checked, I’m not a woman so, you can ask them (women). EK: You don’t even know that? AM: My Lord I’m not a woman. Judge Muwata intervenes: Just answer what you can. If you don’t know, say so, otherwise you (end up) saying outrageous things. Judge to Mr Karuhanga: Anyway, he doesn’t know.. EK: He doesn’t know…. EK then says to AM: According to the state’s evidence…the state’s accusation, there was a violent confrontation in the bedroom that day. Would this DNA speak to that violent confrontation? Mr Mubiru remains silent and looks at the prosecutors’ area. EK: Don’t look at the state for answers…Would this DNA speak to a violent confrontation? AM: My Lord I’d need to appraise myself with the characteristics of a violent confrontation…some violent confrontations… EK: No, no, no. Would this DNA (speak to a violent confrontation)? Just say yes or no or I don’t know. AM: No, the DNA cannot speak to that because my Lord this question I’ve already answered. I cannot speak to activities that led to the deposition of DNA EK: Okay, fine. But you were at the scene…. UgandaVsMollyKatanga resumes soon after the Judges are done with electoral petitions.